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As I wrote, the temporary 30-day-plates in Romania do not come with a "green card" like insurance...
Todo:

Check with ADAC in Germany to see if they will issue a temporary "green card" insurance policy for a vehicle with Romanian 30 day plates.

Otherwise, the most obvious solution would be to purchase the vehicle with "regular" Romanian plates on it, and a "regular" Romanian insurance policy that is valid in the other countries that you wish to visit.

Generally, though, I think that AnTyx has answered the question well. My own take on your proposed trip is that it doesn't make economic sense. It would be far cheaper for you to obtain a vehicle in Germany (your own, or a rental, whatever), drive to Romania, drive around, and return to Germany. You would have some additional expense for the first leg of the trip from Germany to Romania, but at least you would know in advance what that expense would be... you would not be exposing yourself to all sorts of unanticipated expenses such as breakdown, disposal of the vehicle in Germany, etc.

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Thank you Michael.

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Todo:

Check with ADAC in Germany to see if they will issue a temporary "green card" insurance policy for a vehicle with Romanian 30 day plates.
Unfortunately, they don´t. I tried to make the ADAC sell me - a long term member - such service several times over the past years, but they refused every time.

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Otherwise, the most obvious solution would be to purchase the vehicle with "regular" Romanian plates on it, and a "regular" Romanian insurance policy that is valid in the other countries that you wish to visit.
Sure. I went that route in Italy and Spain. Convinced sellers in the past, to let me drive on their regular plates with EU wide coverage. But it´s always a thin line to negotiate hard on a car´s price and then depending on such a favour, which asks for a huge amount of trust and good will by the seller. I would not want to rely on it. But everything in life is negotiable...

Regular registration in my name in a foreign country would require a local adress and social number. Not what I think of a quick and easy solution.

I hoped to find someone here, who has yet found a Romanian insurance which sold him a "green card"-like insurance with EU wide coverage for the use of Romanian-only-30-days-plates outside of Romania.

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Generally, though, I think that AnTyx has answered the question well. My own take on your proposed trip is that it doesn't make economic sense. It would be far cheaper for you to obtain a vehicle in Germany (your own, or a rental, whatever), drive to Romania, drive around, and return to Germany. You would have some additional expense for the first leg of the trip from Germany to Romania, but at least you would know in advance what that expense would be... you would not be exposing yourself to all sorts of unanticipated expenses such as breakdown, disposal of the vehicle in Germany, etc.

Michael
I´m just checking practical options to explore some lined up regions in a one way direction.

Along the way, there are a good two dozend pretty rural places within five wider regions between Bukarest and Prague, we want to explore to some extend for future business develoment. These places are more or less lined up and not doable in an efficient circular round trip. We´d pass nearly every region twice, so we´d double our road time, which seems to be a silly waste of time.

Of course going by own car both ways is an option on the table, if there will be no interesting offer on the car market during the time we´ll need one. But none of us wants to bring his own pretty new car for that trip, not only because car theft rates are pretty high in Romania, but also because we´d like to blend into local traffic. Showing up with a lesser expensive car than ours in rural eastern Europe while looking for a bargain property purchase could level out the expectations of a seller during price negotiations, other than showing up in a new car that´s multiple times the value of the house and the land we had come for.

By hard earned experience we are fully aware of the risks involved in buying a used car abroad but we still have confidence that the combined knowledge within the team of over half a century of doing just that, classic car trades and restaurations as a hobby, reduces our risk of buying a lemon to an acceptable level.

(If shit hits the fan on the road because we buy a lemon, we´ll make lemonade out of it. Here finally the long term ADAC Premium Membership mobility insurance comes into play: they trailer the broken car home to Germany or to the next workshop and meanwhile pay a rental car and hotel to let us continue our journey. I wouldn´t choose a bad car or cut some wires just to use the service of my mobility insurance, but when they refuse to sell me a green card for foreign temporary plates, than they might have to carry these plates by themselves on their insured truck across borders right to my house.)

Anyway. In every slightly interesting car in the 3-10k€ region is a 1-2k€ margin to be found by just washing it and patiently waiting for the right client. If the car will be sold at a loss, the loss will be little, divided on many shoulders and forgotten after a few s.

So our options so far for this 3-4 weeks excursion are :

1- going both ways (total of min 6500km) by own car = passing nearly every region twice = waste of days & boring but comparably cheap and hassle free as long as the car won´t get stolen.

2- flying with a team member´s own little plane from region to region = 5 times rental cars + plane parking fees at airports. Unfortunately, none of the preferred pitoresque cheap little air strips in the rural areas of interest have a Hertz or AVIS agent next to the runway to explore the surroundings in a rental. So we´d be limited to bigger (more expensive) commercial air fields with such service = flexible and fast, but for a price.

3- flying charter in 2hrs to Bukarest for 60€ each at some friday instead of driving 3 days down there> clearing some car deal over the weekend > returning one-way 3-4000km on freshly bought wheels = saved 3000km and time, beeing totally flexible on route planning, blending into local traffic, ending up with a nice souvenier or a potential car deal back home. At least with a story to tell. Could be worse.
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...comparably cheap and hassle free as long as the car won't get stolen.
Funny you should mention that - the Albanian Tourist Board's marketing slogan this year is "Visit Albania, your car is already here".
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I’ve been through something similar so I can share some tips. When buying a car in Romania and driving it to Germany, sort out your insurance first. Different countries have different rules, so getting the right coverage is crucial. You’ll probably need a Green Card or proof of insurance that is valid in all EU countries. It might be worth checking out local insurance options or talking to an international insurance provider.If you're looking for a good deal, check out used cars in saskatoon for some ideas on what to expect price-wise and quality-wise.

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