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I live in Denmark although I am English.

I want to buy a motorbike in the UK on E Bay. The bike will be collected by a friend and taken to his garage.

I would like to collect the bike in the summer and bring the bike to denmark on the Ferry.

The bike will not be registered to me at the time.

How can I get Insurance for a week to get the bike back to Denmark?
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Hi Steve,

I don't think you can, at all easily anyway. It has to have a registered address in the UK to get insurance cover - there are loads of threads on here about the whole business of insurance/MOT/RFL (road fund licence) and how it all relates to Staturory Off Road Notification (sorn) and UK law.
Do a search for any of those terms if you are not sure.

IMO, your best bet is to get it to a ferry port in a van and then ride it aboard the boat on the ferry companys' private land.
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Officially NO but....
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Get the bike, get on it and ride it home. If anyone stops you just explain that you are taking the bike to get registered in Denmark and you are not a proper dealer so have no trade plates. Then STOP being able to speak english, within ten minutes they will have given up as long as you weren't driving dangerously.

When it comes to big overland trips cops, like all people are easily impressed. I have been stopped well over a hundred times and I had the correct documentation maybe once and I have still been bought vodka more times (3) than charged (1)

We are all human, and being a good person will get you through a lot of red-tape that would stop you in your tracks if you were an arse-hole - so don't be an arse-hole!!

Take it easy, ride fast, ride safe and ride loose!!!!
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Get the bike, get on it and ride it home. If anyone stops you just explain that you are taking the bike to get registered in Denmark and you are not a proper dealer so have no trade plates. Then STOP being able to speak english, within ten minutes they will have given up as long as you weren't driving dangerously.

When it comes to big overland trips cops, like all people are easily impressed. I have been stopped well over a hundred times and I had the correct documentation maybe once and I have still been bought vodka more times (3) than charged (1)

We are all human, and being a good person will get you through a lot of red-tape that would stop you in your tracks if you were an arse-hole - so don't be an arse-hole!!

Take it easy, ride fast, ride safe and ride loose!!!!

You have put yourself in the firing line with this reply !!
but I agree with you 100%
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The firing line is the most exciting place going!

What is the point in a community forum for exchanging opinions, thoughts and practical advice if we are all playing buy the book word-for-word...... "I am afraid that having risk-assessed the activity and concluded that the likelyhood of an 'incident' is 4/5 and the potential severity of an 'incident' is 5, giving a total combined risk of 80%, which is far beyond the prescribed limit, overland travel by motorcycle is to be discontinued!"

Same maths most of the insurance companies use. Which is a shame. Sure you have lots of serious stuff to contend with but suck it up, deal with it and if it goes wrong it goes wrong.

That said I feel that given the litigous times we live in I should protect myself should I end up in 'the line of fire':- all opinions expressed by that of Henryuk are that of an inexperienced and in this case drunken young man, and should not be followed by anyone, in anyy instance.
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having received legal advice I would like to add that neither Henryuk or the individual whose registration on this site holds that name have ever or would ever advise contravening any law or by-law in any country for any purpose in perpetuity and any previous statement by the aforementioned was a literary work of fiction. Same as the classic children's tale about my spare 'MOT time' exhaust, ha ha!
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Henryuk, where did you receive your legal advice from at 1am in the morning in the UK?
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Cover note
Why don’t you take out a cover note?

Some UK companies issue insurance immediately and then forward out all the associated paperwork for you to fill out and forward back with payment.

You could always do this and write back informing them you are not going to go through with it. Even if it costs you few dollars better that than no insurance.

9 times out of 10 you wont be stopped and you will get away with it but if you were unfortunately involved in an incident it going to cost a whole lot more …….
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I agree with you guys. But being an ex police officer I want all your names and addresses....especially YOU henryuk...your a bloody crook.

My brother has an mot station..Yes he`s a bloody crook as well.

I can use his trade plates to get to the ferry and then hire trade plates at this end. Otherwise I can just ride the bloody thing home.

I am sure there must be an official way so when I find it i will post it.

Thanks for your replies guys.

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Just be sure you understand the consequence.

If you get stopped in the UK without insurance they can take the bike. If you decide not to understand English most coppers know how to deal with that.

Can the existing owner add you as a named driver?

Alternativly use your friends address to insure it, pay monthly then cancel. But if you use this method find out if there is any down side to canceling, but don't ask in the same phone call.

This modern world gets harder.

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How about contacting a Danish insurance company where you live and asking them? Better to sort it out properly than end up explaining to the police that 'some people on the internet said it'd be alright'. You could lose your bike.

Edit: Sorry - I'm going to have to say it,. Telling someone to ignore vehicle insurance is not only stupid, but ****ing selfish.
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As an ex police officer an RTA casualty and a responsible biker I really would not go with the no insurance line. Its not me or the bike that would be the primary concern. Its what happens if I was unfortunate enough to hurt someone else.

The insurance angle seems to be a problem for "Foreigners" in the UK so when I find the solution I will post it.

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Insuring Motorcycle

Do you have Auto insurance?
Ask them. Here in the USA,
if you have Auto Insurance,
the Insurance co.
automatically covers you for 30 days,
if you are buying a Auto.
Dont know if they cover Motorcycles the same way.

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Its only illegal if you get caught!

A big ditto on Henryuk wise words, no risk equals no rewards and its amazing how being nice and playing your cards right can get you through many situations.

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