1Likes
-
1
Post By Canuck Unstuck
 |

31 Mar 2019
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Victoria
Posts: 12
|
|
Vancouver to Kuala Lumpur KL shipping
Julia:
I think I can answer your question. In mid Jan we shipped the bike from Vancouver to Kuala Lumpur (KL). I’ll list some of the items to bear in mind and things that will help keep your costs down:
1. At the moment you have a fairly big advantage right off the top with the USD trading over 30% higher than the Canadian Dollar.
2. A bike with fuel and a battery in them are considered hazardous goods so you’ll be asked to drain the tank and remove the battery before it’s shipped. We shipped on Nippon Airways through Allcargo Express. It was a 2 leg trip for the bike which transferred in Tokyo then onto KL. In Laos, where we are currently, the airline and the shipping company want no oil in the case, no battery, no gas, and no air in the tires. That way, the bike can ship as regular goods so rates can be lower. The point is the airline can dictate what it considers hazardous or not and if it can go as non hazardous it’s to your advantage.
3. With dimensional weight, you will have a crate that simply put, is much larger than your bike and since your going to be paying for space that is empty then you can box up your bulky gear, boot, jackets, helmet, and other the heavy things you don’t want to lug through the airport(s) and stick them in the crate - your shipping cost won’t be going up.
4. The crate Allcargo built was beautiful with shims between the straps so my side cases didn’t get scuffed in transit, protection over the rims and tires where they slipped into the case etc.
5. KL was the preferred spot to enter because and numerous members on this forum talked about the hassles of clearing in Bangkok. That may be true but KL/Malaysia had it’s own challenges as well and I’ll be happy to advise you later on how to simply “avoid” those challenges.
6. Something to think about when you get to the other end KL is if you’ve taken apart your bike you’ve got to put it together and should you need a shop to help you out there is the added expense of trucking the bike there, finding the right shop etc. It can be easier just to fuel up, with your paperwork in hand and off you go. Delays which mean hotel costs, meals, etc add up even in KL.
7. My KTM 1290’s uncrated dimensions with the side bags off, and windshield removed is: weight 535 lbs, Length 83”, Width 36”, Height 55” (you’ll need to use cm & kg from here on in. The crated dimensions of the bike were: Charge Weight 659 Kgs (1452 Lbs), Length 94.5”, width 43.5, Height 58”
8. The final price to KL was around $3.5k Canadian about $700 higher than the original quote because they simply can’t give you an accurate price for your bikes dimensions until they build the crate.
9. Lots of interesting things can happen in the warehouses and loading docks of airports. The risk of damage to a badly packed or unprotected bike is high so think about the trade offs of saving money cus simply put, getting parts in SE Asia for anything over a 250 isn’t as quick and easy as it is in North America
That’s a bit of a long winded answer but I hope it helps. Let me know what you’ve been thinking about routing. I highly recommend you get a Carnet De Passage from Boomerang in the states. It may be a bit spendy up front (most of which you get back later), and even though it’s officially only recognized by Malaysia, it sure helped us breeze through the borders in Cambodia, Thailand, and Laos - useless in Vietnam though..... that’s another story.
Last edited by Canuck Unstuck; 31 Mar 2019 at 05:13.
Reason: Spelling error
|

17 Apr 2019
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 20
|
|
Canuck!
This information is amazing, thank you so much for sharing!!! That is great to hear that you shipped to KL. Either there or Jakarta would be my ideal starting point. Did you travel in Indonesia or explore shipping there?
Regarding routing, I was planning to start in SE Asia in December (maybe a bit earlier, TBD). I'll hopefully have about 2 years, we will see how it shakes out. Planning through SE Asia-Nepal-India-Pakistan-Central Asia/Stans-Mongolia-back down and here it gets TBD depending on the situation at that time in the Middle East and whether I can pass through, so maybe Turkey/Mediterranean-length of Africa likely Egypt to SA on the East side.
My biggest routing question mark at the moment is the difficult situation of Thailand. From threads I read hear its sound like people are getting through (with some effort) currently, so I am hopeful that will be the case. Were you there before the new rules went into effect? So much can happen over the next 7 months so I am hopeful and planning with that in mind.
Yes, I am aware and planning to get the carnet from Boomerang, though I need to contact them soon to go through the details. I will need it for Nepal, India, Pakistan, much of Africa, amongst others anyway, and I understand it can make things easier even if not officially required.
Regarding the below.
1. Yes, thats great.
2. I will definitely contact Allcargo express for a quote. With your set up did you just have to drain most of gas and remove battery?
3/4. That is all really good to know.
5. Yes, that would be great! Did you need to arrange a broker or something to clear customs in KL or did Allcargo Express take care of this?
6. You are totally right about not making the logistics more complicated. If I were taking anything apart it would be stuff that I would have the tools and knowledge to put back together ie- F wheel, bars (though that might be a bit of a pain I'd have to test it to see if its worth it), mirrors, windshield.
7/8. Thanks for these details- it is helpful to see how the real life numbers translate to crated numbers. So are the uncrated dimensions of your bike (minus bags and windshield) what you provided to Allcargo Express to get the initial quote? Yes, I understand it is all just an estimate till you hand over the dollars- like everything!
And did the final price include them making the crate as well? Did you just drop the bike off and then they handled the crating process?
9. You are so right about this! I want to find a reasonable price while still ensuring a quality service. It seems like your experience was very good and final price was somewhat in line with what I was expecting.
Julia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canuck Unstuck
Julia:
I think I can answer your question. In mid Jan we shipped the bike from Vancouver to Kuala Lumpur (KL). I’ll list some of the items to bear in mind and things that will help keep your costs down:
1. At the moment you have a fairly big advantage right off the top with the USD trading over 30% higher than the Canadian Dollar.
2. A bike with fuel and a battery in them are considered hazardous goods so you’ll be asked to drain the tank and remove the battery before it’s shipped. We shipped on Nippon Airways through Allcargo Express. It was a 2 leg trip for the bike which transferred in Tokyo then onto KL. In Laos, where we are currently, the airline and the shipping company want no oil in the case, no battery, no gas, and no air in the tires. That way, the bike can ship as regular goods so rates can be lower. The point is the airline can dictate what it considers hazardous or not and if it can go as non hazardous it’s to your advantage.
3. With dimensional weight, you will have a crate that simply put, is much larger than your bike and since your going to be paying for space that is empty then you can box up your bulky gear, boot, jackets, helmet, and other the heavy things you don’t want to lug through the airport(s) and stick them in the crate - your shipping cost won’t be going up.
4. The crate Allcargo built was beautiful with shims between the straps so my side cases didn’t get scuffed in transit, protection over the rims and tires where they slipped into the case etc.
5. KL was the preferred spot to enter because and numerous members on this forum talked about the hassles of clearing in Bangkok. That may be true but KL/Malaysia had it’s own challenges as well and I’ll be happy to advise you later on how to simply “avoid” those challenges.
6. Something to think about when you get to the other end KL is if you’ve taken apart your bike you’ve got to put it together and should you need a shop to help you out there is the added expense of trucking the bike there, finding the right shop etc. It can be easier just to fuel up, with your paperwork in hand and off you go. Delays which mean hotel costs, meals, etc add up even in KL.
7. My KTM 1290’s uncrated dimensions with the side bags off, and windshield removed is: weight 535 lbs, Length 83”, Width 36”, Height 55” (you’ll need to use cm & kg from here on in. The crated dimensions of the bike were: Charge Weight 659 Kgs (1452 Lbs), Length 94.5”, width 43.5, Height 58”
8. The final price to KL was around $3.5k Canadian about $700 higher than the original quote because they simply can’t give you an accurate price for your bikes dimensions until they build the crate.
9. Lots of interesting things can happen in the warehouses and loading docks of airports. The risk of damage to a badly packed or unprotected bike is high so think about the trade offs of saving money cus simply put, getting parts in SE Asia for anything over a 250 isn’t as quick and easy as it is in North America
That’s a bit of a long winded answer but I hope it helps. Let me know what you’ve been thinking about routing. I highly recommend you get a Carnet De Passage from Boomerang in the states. It may be a bit spendy up front (most of which you get back later), and even though it’s officially only recognized by Malaysia, it sure helped us breeze through the borders in Cambodia, Thailand, and Laos - useless in Vietnam though..... that’s another story.
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...
2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.
"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.
Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes.
(ONLY US RESIDENTS and currently has a limit of 60 days.)
Ripcord Evacuation Insurance is available for ALL nationalities.
What others say about HU...
"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia
"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK
"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia
"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA
"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada
"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa
"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia
"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany
Lots more comments here!

Every book a diary
Every chapter a day
Every day a journey
Refreshingly honest and compelling tales: the hights and lows of a life on the road. Solo, unsupported, budget journeys of discovery.
Authentic, engaging and evocative travel memoirs, overland, around the world and through life.
All 8 books available from the author or as eBooks and audio books
Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!
New to Horizons Unlimited?
New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!
Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.
Read more about Grant & Susan's story
Membership - help keep us going!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.
|
|
|