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There is no such thing as free space these days mate. Welcome to a world where you pay for space you dont use.
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Respectfully, I think you are missing the point because you have not read previous posts carefully.

Respectfully, have you read my post?
If there are no reports about airfreight, there might be a reason why?

I've shipped my bike by air, Santiago de Chile to Sydney.
Payed by the "normal" way with size/weight ratio formula, dangerous goods and all that stuff.
Don't know in what kind of airplane it was loaded.
And no, shipping by air is usually not a good deal.
But when it's the only option you have then you do it.
That is what I ment with "What is loaded in that free space".



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If there are no reports about airfreight, there might be a reason why?
Perhaps because Vladivostok is not a common destination for participants here in this forum. After having visited Vladivostok half a dozen times, I can appreciate why it's not a common destination.
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I've shipped my bike by air, Santiago de Chile to Sydney. Paid by the "normal" way with size/weight ratio formula, dangerous goods and all that stuff.
It's unfortunate that you had to pay regular price based on cubic weight. It must have been expensive.

I mostly shipped my moto back and forth between Toronto & Paris or Toronto & Zürich. Always just rode it into a container, as shown below. Cost about CAD $1,600 (CHF 1,150) each way. Fast and easy - landed once at 6:00 AM in Paris, and was on the road riding out of the airport at 8:30 AM (I flew as a passenger on the same aircraft the moto was loaded into).

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It's unfortunate that you had to pay regular price based on cubic weight. It must have been expensive.
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Crating, paperwork, storage for 2 weeks, airfreight =us$ 1753.-
arrival, custom, inspection in Sidney aud$ = 495.-
Never ship by air to Sidney, other airports down under are cheaper.

The most expensive of my 6 shippment on my RTW, but not that bad, average I would calculate us$ 1500.-.

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Respectfully, have you read my post?
If there are no reports about airfreight, there might be a reason why?

I've shipped my bike by air, Santiago de Chile to Sydney.
Payed by the "normal" way with size/weight ratio formula, dangerous goods and all that stuff.
Don't know in what kind of airplane it was loaded.
And no, shipping by air is usually not a good deal.
But when it's the only option you have then you do it.
That is what I ment with "What is loaded in that free space".



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In my most recent experience ( the last 2 weeks) this method of packing will likely be rejected. You will be required to have a fully crated motorcycle which will then possibly be charged not at the volumetric weight of the crate, but of the entire capacity of ULD it sits on or in. PAG,FLA, LD6 etc. Pivot weight. It is very unlikely in the current air cargo market you will be offered the under pivot weight.

My previous experience shipping bikes by air is completely redundant in the new world of severely reduced flights and high demand for cargo.

Just as an aside. An FCL 20ft container sea freight 3 years ago was USD$2.5k, now USD7k. With some ports rejecting LCL for motorcycles.
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Apropos of shipping vehicles into or out of Vladivostok, this article published today on Jalopnik (with accompanying YouTube video) might be of interest:

Cars Arrive At Port Covered In Salty Ice After Ship Sails Through Bad Weather.

Perhaps there might be space available on the backhaul of ships such as this. There is some contact information about the importer in the article.
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Smile Hallo
my plan is to start in 2023, I think this year, to much is not possible, so it makes no sense for me to start this year but I would like to check out the possibilities, one day the world goes back to normal....sure
I already contact Yuri, he tell me by air is via Korea, so I have to ship by sea to Korea, the Korean agent pick up the bike and bring it to Seoul Airport, I think this way is to expensive, he tell me just the rate to Korea, the other rate he don?t know.
Another option is for me ride through China, I found a chinese agent who offers reasonable rates when you find 6 vehicles, this is cheaper as the seafreight Vladivostok-Bangkok and you don`t have to wait 4-6 weeks until you get back your bike.
Does anyone hear about www.erlebnisreisenchina.com ?
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