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Hey WheatWacker... how much, and where is it?
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Firstly, it's wheatwhacker, not wheatwacker 
The seller was asking for 2,300. After some negotiations, I have got him to 2000 even.
The guy selling it is a copper. He has no idea about the Doohickey so I presume it needs to be done.
It's the only one for sale in Ireland and the UK that I know of.
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23 Feb 2014
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23 Feb 2014
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I am shipping with Hc travel via RoRo ship and its £595 per bike, but stipulate's that you can't have the bike loaded with all your gear. It can have boxes on but nothing in them. They have to be able to inspect / search the bike and stops anything being stolen or broken.
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23 Feb 2014
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You're right. It is probably the only real downside of using a RoRo service. We had the same issue in 2006 (airfreight) and 2009 (RoRo). We managed though, by using very light pvc Musto yachting bags which are strong enough to travel as check-in bags on our flight and pack down into their own neat stuff bag when we picked up the bikes the other end. (Helmets went in a small backpack as cabin baggage and we wore our bike jackets to save space in the luggage. Only real issue was also having to wear our m/c boots onto the plane, but as soon as we were seated, we kicked them off in favour of a pair of cosy flight socks!)
Here's how the Musto bags worked ...
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24 Feb 2014
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...you can't have the bike loaded with all your gear. It can have boxes on but nothing in them. They have to be able to inspect / search the bike...
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I've shipped my motorcycle back and forth across the Atlantic by air several times, and the rules for air shipping are the same as for ro/ro ferries: All the saddlebags/panniers are supposed to be empty.
Having said that, I have always stuffed the saddlebags/panniers full of soft clothing, and declared that when I have dropped the bike off at the air freight shed (the process being more or less like this: "Are all the saddlebags empty like they are supposed to be?" ... "Yes, they are empty, except that there is a little bit of soft clothing in them" (the truth being that they are stuffed full with clothing).
I think that the shipping companies are primarily concerned about dangerous goods (camping stoves, flammables, etc.) being put in the panniers, or concerned with heavy objects being placed in the panniers, which is why they impose the "empty saddlebags" rule in the first place. My experience has been that the person who accepts the bike doesn't care if the saddlebags are stuffed with obviously harmless and relatively lightweight contents such as soft clothing.
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I've shipped my motorcycle back and forth across the Atlantic by air several times, and the rules for air shipping are the same as for ro/ro ferries: All the saddlebags/panniers are supposed to be empty.
Having said that, I have always stuffed the saddlebags/panniers full of soft clothing, and declared that when I have dropped the bike off at the air freight shed (the process being more or less like this: "Are all the saddlebags empty like they are supposed to be?" ... "Yes, they are empty, except that there is a little bit of soft clothing in them" (the truth being that they are stuffed full with clothing).
I think that the shipping companies are primarily concerned about dangerous goods (camping stoves, flammables, etc.) being put in the panniers, or concerned with heavy objects being placed in the panniers, which is why they impose the "empty saddlebags" rule in the first place. My experience has been that the person who accepts the bike doesn't care if the saddlebags are stuffed with obviously harmless and relatively lightweight contents such as soft clothing.
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In my case,, when I air cargoed via DHL from Frankfurt to Inchon, I placed excess stuff on the corner of the pallet,, no problems there. Also on the ro-ro from Korea to Long Beach and New Jersey to Bremen,,, I had my tools, winter clothing in the luggage boxes, with a soft bag full of daily stuff, hung over the back sisi bar,, was no problem. Also in the wooden crate coming from Milano to Busan, I placed all my excess bags in the wooden box. It seems ,, forwarder's declared manifest is what they go by.
You have to play it by the ear.
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24 Feb 2014
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Have you considered buying in Europe?
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As a well known (in Australia) retired Aussie Rules footballer says "You know it makes sense." It's a bit of a no brainer really to buy a bike in situ and avoid the cost (dead loss) and hassle of freighting a bike overseas.
That is why I bought a bike in the USA for my American travels instead of freighting my bike.
However some of us develop an affinity with a bike and wish to stick with it through thick and thin, even though it is just a bucket of bolts. Weird I know, is it just me? I find it easy to buy a bike, but difficult to sell it.
So now I have a bike currently in Europe which I wish to ship to America and then home to Australia to complete it's RTW, and the bike currently in Alaska will eventually end up in Europe after I've satisfied my American desires. I think I will always need a bike in Europe.
However, as suggested in this thread, I think I will use RORO sea freight like Wallenius or HC Travel, as this method is cheaper than air freight and less bureaucratic than sea container freight. Have I at least got that bit right?
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I think I will use RORO sea freight like Wallenius or HC Travel ...
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BTW, as far as I am aware, HC Travel only act as an agent for Wallenius Wilhelmsen.
Don't know, but it might be more cost effective to deal direct with WW. (I did in June 2007. Soton to Halifax, NS. Dead easy.)
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Going to Korea,I shipped my bike from Vancouver,Canada because they have different rules for transport. Panniers and top box were full,but strapped to the pallet.
When I shipped my bike from Buenos Aries to the USA,I had to haul most everything with me on the plane. Panniers and top box were strapped to the pallet also. But the USA has different regulations.
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Thanks everyone. I finally settled on Motorcycle Express. They're flying my bike from Toronto, Canada to Dublin, Ireland for US$ 2170. The quoted price was US$2195 - US$50 HU discount - US$25 earl-bird special (?) - US$(?) 50 for postage, so the total price was US$2170.
Motorcycle Express' associated travel agency got me a seat on the same plane for ~US$700. So total was ~US$3000.
One thing I don't like is I was told that I can not load anything in my bike. This creates the problem of having to carry everything onto the plane. Which means an excess baggage charge. Everything being my spares and tools... bummer.
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Thanks everyone. I finally settled on Motorcycle Express. They're flying my bike from Toronto, Canada to Dublin, Ireland for US$ 2170. The quoted price was US$2195 - US$50 HU discount - US$25 earl-bird special (?) - US$(?) 50 for postage, so the total price was US$2170.
Motorcycle Express' associated travel agency got me a seat on the same plane for ~US$700. So total was ~US$3000.
One thing I don't like is I was told that I can not load anything in my bike. This creates the problem of having to carry everything onto the plane. Which means an excess baggage charge. Everything being my spares and tools... bummer.
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Well done.
Dublin is 3 hours from me. Don't forget to call in.
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Thanks Wheatwhacker. Send me your address and I will...
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I have family in County Roscommon that I am looking forward to visiting also.,
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That KLR is still for sale.
If nobody here wants it, it's going on the local classifieds where it will last maybe a day for sale.
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As a well known (in Australia) retired Aussie Rules footballer says "You know it makes sense." It's a bit of a no brainer really to buy a bike in situ and avoid the cost (dead loss) and hassle of freighting a bike overseas.
That is why I bought a bike in the USA for my American travels instead of freighting my bike.
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Mark ,, yes it makes very good economic sense, to buy use and resell. However, in my case,, since there are only three Koreans, who have done the RTW, including my self,, I felt that it was a national honour, to have my Korean license plate, to show proudly,, to the people of this world.
Indeed there are some 60 Koreans, who have done Trans-Siberia, some Europe back to Korea,, most of the case they all took their own bikes. I believe lot of Japanese riders feel same way. As a matter of progression,, soon we will see Chinese bikers doing same,, then Indians ,, then Africans ,, on and on.
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