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“Tropicalised 1HZ”
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Picking up my troopy in a couple of weeks as the NGO needs to remove the livery, tracking and HF etc. Anyway, just doing some reading on the engine and have come across this term: tropicalised engine. MSF get all their LCs supplied like this.
So, apart from changing/removing the viscous clutch, what does this entail?
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Let's get the ball rolling and hazard a few guesses!
Consider these and begin head scratching!
Installing a fuel pre-filter
Upgrading the cooling system
Choosing oils to suit expected environment for all boxes
Fitting diff breathers
Fitting snorkel with a cyclonic filter head or ram air depending on expected terrain (easy swop)
New shaft seals
Engine, diffs, transfer protection plates
New/ more powerful battery/ies
Winch/Self rescue kit
Reinforced tow points
Fitting comms
Fresh rum and pineapples?!!
and the list goes on and on. It really all hinges on where you are planning to take the vehicle
Why not get in touch with MSF and ask? You might get lucky and get a steer as to which firm they use to work on their vehicles.
Cue the next contribution
Last edited by Toyark; 3 Days Ago at 09:43.
Reason: wrote gaiters(bkes) instead of seals)
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Nice! I’ll give it a thorough going over when I get it. I’ll take your advice but I’ll speak to Toyota not MSF, as it was a NGO vehicle and they usually get their vehicles maintained by the main dealer so I'll see if I can get their advice on their “tropical” service spec.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Africa 4x4 Cafe
MSF get all their LCs supplied like this.
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Hi,
I am not sure if I interpret your question correctly, so please forgive me if i am wrong.
Your name and location suggests you live on the Africa continent. In another post of you you wrote going to buy a vehicle from a NGO, which I guess is MSF.
You also wrote ¨MSF get all their LC´s supplied lile this¨.
So I assume that the Land Cruiser you gone buy has already a tropicalized engine. I also assume you gone import and registrate it in a Africa country and use it mostly there.
If that is correct you would not have to change anything because the car is already perfect for Africa.
On the other hand if you would like to import and registrate the car in a European country than I think it will be very difficult.
Here is a link about the subject:
https://www.transautomobile.com/en/t...port-export-21
Good luck.
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Very interesting.
However I just wanted to know what tropicalised meant. Especially as we also want to buy an LC200 direct from Japan. I just wanted to know what sort of alterations we would have to make on an imported vehicle. Thanks for your input though.
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Methinks the real question here has to be:
How are you planning to use the vehicle and where?
Often forgotten, in the chase for 'shiny things', is that it is the environment and weather which dictate the type of equipment/ modifications required.
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Hi
It's a 78 so it's not going to be shiny and it's got a 1HZ so it'll drive like a brick! East Africa has poor roads, even poorer driving and treacherous conditions off tar so the troopy will be for EA safaris etc. We’ll also get an LC200, secondhand from Japan in a year or so, for road trips back home (zim and sa) anyway, that’s the plan!
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Hope this answers your question Af Caf ;-)
https://www.transautomobile.com/en/t...port-export-21
Seems the link doesn't work, so:
In these countries :
The temperature is usually high
Fuel quality is not the best or is not very good
There is a lot of dust
There is high humidity
The roads are of poor quality
Therefore, vehicles have :
A heavy duty cooling system (Radiator, fan, etc.)
An engine and fuel system suited to using fuel of a lesser quality
Heavier filters (Air, Oil, Fuel)
Far fewer electronics than European or US vehicles
No catalytic converter
Reinforced suspension
We also draw your attention to the fact that :
Only "tropicalised" vehicles carry a manufacturer's guarantee for use outside Europe and the USA.
Spare parts and servicing are available from the make's local representative (which is not the case for EU and US models)
You would be leaving yourself open to mechanical problems, if you were to use EU or US standard vehicles in tropical countries. (Dirt in the injectors, in the exhaust)
"Tropicalised" vehicles cannot be registered in Europe (EU), since they do not conform to pollution prevention standards and do not have a certificate of conformity
Standards (tropical, EU, USA)Standards (tropisch, USA, EU)
With respect to the emission standards of vehicles called "tropical", no restriction is applied to those vehicles that are specially designed to withstand extreme weather conditions that test mechanics. In addition, these vehicles must withstand a poor quality fuel, which does not permit European or American standards.
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Originally Posted by mossproof
Hope this answers your question Af Caf ;-)
https://www.transautomobile.com/en/t...port-export-21
Seems the link doesn't work, so:
In these countries :
The temperature is usually high
Fuel quality is not the best or is not very good
There is a lot of dust
There is high humidity
The roads are of poor quality
Therefore, vehicles have :
A heavy duty cooling system (Radiator, fan, etc.)
An engine and fuel system suited to using fuel of a lesser quality
Heavier filters (Air, Oil, Fuel)
Far fewer electronics than European or US vehicles
No catalytic converter
Reinforced suspension
We also draw your attention to the fact that :
Only "tropicalised" vehicles carry a manufacturer's guarantee for use outside Europe and the USA.
Spare parts and servicing are available from the make's local representative (which is not the case for EU and US models)
You would be leaving yourself open to mechanical problems, if you were to use EU or US standard vehicles in tropical countries. (Dirt in the injectors, in the exhaust)
"Tropicalised" vehicles cannot be registered in Europe (EU), since they do not conform to pollution prevention standards and do not have a certificate of conformity
Standards (tropical, EU, USA)Standards (tropisch, USA, EU)
With respect to the emission standards of vehicles called "tropical", no restriction is applied to those vehicles that are specially designed to withstand extreme weather conditions that test mechanics. In addition, these vehicles must withstand a poor quality fuel, which does not permit European or American standards.
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It sounds like the trpoicalised part of the Cruiser is the 1HZ itself. Old tech, inefficient, simple, no emissions control, no electric fans etc
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It’s a 1hz?
Just service it as per the vehicles manual and leave the engine EXACTLY as Toyota designed it. It’s not a land rover
Service the viscous coupling by all means, but don’t change it.
Add an electric fan just in case, and an additional temp gauge and over temp light.
Have fun.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mossproof
Hope this answers your question Af Caf ;-)
https://www.transautomobile.com/en/t...port-export-21
Seems the link doesn't work, so:
In these countries :
The temperature is usually high
Fuel quality is not the best or is not very good
There is a lot of dust
There is high humidity
The roads are of poor quality
Therefore, vehicles have :
A heavy duty cooling system (Radiator, fan, etc.)
An engine and fuel system suited to using fuel of a lesser quality
Heavier filters (Air, Oil, Fuel)
Far fewer electronics than European or US vehicles
No catalytic converter
Reinforced suspension
We also draw your attention to the fact that :
Only "tropicalised" vehicles carry a manufacturer's guarantee for use outside Europe and the USA.
Spare parts and servicing are available from the make's local representative (which is not the case for EU and US models)
You would be leaving yourself open to mechanical problems, if you were to use EU or US standard vehicles in tropical countries. (Dirt in the injectors, in the exhaust)
"Tropicalised" vehicles cannot be registered in Europe (EU), since they do not conform to pollution prevention standards and do not have a certificate of conformity
Standards (tropical, EU, USA)Standards (tropisch, USA, EU)
With respect to the emission standards of vehicles called "tropical", no restriction is applied to those vehicles that are specially designed to withstand extreme weather conditions that test mechanics. In addition, these vehicles must withstand a poor quality fuel, which does not permit European or American standards.
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Actually it looks like a few dealers in Europe import these vehicles, and manage to make them EURO 6 / ULEZ compliant.
See Equipraid for France https://www.equip-raid.fr/actualites...ion-francaise/
See RHAS for UK https://rowlandsandhordonautomotives...sers-for-sale/
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Yes it is he 1HZ engine and we don't intend to take it out of Africa but you never know so thanks for the links. I still haven't picked it up yet but I will look out for all the tropical mods mentioned. I've had it inspected and it's in very good condition with just the usual wear and tear for a 160k vehicle:
- Tie rod ends set are worn out, needs replacement – 2pcs
Front propellor universal joint worn out, needs replacement – 1pcs
Rear differential sensor & socket broken, needs replacement – 1pc
Rear left wing has dent.
Rear fuel tank has fuel leakage from feeding pipe
Fortunately it had the timing belt changed at 150k so I've sent out for quotes on the rest and I'll try and get pics up asap.
Many thanks to all for your input!
Go well,
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