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Grant,
It would be possible that you allow users to select one of a few different profiles for how each prefer to view the forum?
How about a simple daytime and nighttime colour scheme?
Nighttime would be ideal for when we want to check in on the HUB when we're snuggled down in our tents and don't want the blazing glare to burn our retinas out in the darkness of our tent.
Much how GPSs do, as an idea?
Like I mentioned, I quite like it, as there is already a lot of blue and black and this colour softens it up a bit. But in saying that, I do understand that these range of colours are not normally used as a text colour for web sites. There is a debate on another techie forum I'm active on regarding much the same, where the colour used for text post headings is orange.
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Red is difficult for dyslexics to read so now I am doing to look into some software or browser Add on to see if I can change it. Trouble is it will probably change all of the text.
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It's certainly not red to my eyes but it does look a bit "wishy washy" especially when the text "greys out" after being read.
Anyone who is colour-visually-impaired might struggle with this shade of orangey-light brown.
How about a deeper, chocolate brown?
I like dark chocolate rather than milk choco.
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Can't you just undo the last change? It was good, as it was :-)
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I would describe that colour as rust,
something our old bikes know only too well!
Alas it does it harder to read in the sun.
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I am colour blind so often green looks blue to me and I can't see red. I did notice what I would call brownish orange and on a white background it is relatively easy for me to read. Start mixing reds/blacks greens and blues and I wont even know there is writing present, so I wont compalin just not know I am not seeing it.
I used to manufacture and sell reading systems for the blind and visually impaired. There is a whole range of conditions out there. There is no one solution as to what is correct. On my systems for the visually impaired clients could choose a base font to any size. (limit a character had to greater than one pixel and less than a screenful). choose their own background and font colours (yellow on black was very common as a best choice). select the distance between characters and lines, also change the height to width ratio of the font.
So I know pleasing everyone will be impossible. But is is easy to antagonise more people with careful selection of gimmicky colours
I need a fairly big size of print so run a 22" at 1152 x 864 This is the highest resolution I can run and still read the text. I used to run at 1024x 768 but had to change up into what is not entirely comfortable for pages to format properly. I know there is stuff to the right of my screen at this moment, off the box into which I am typing. I never see that. so it was a waste of programming time. There was a time when a 17" screen gave me really legible print, but as the resolutions increase so I get to see less and less of what the developers are pushing out. It really is self defeating. Often I have to centre my screen to where the text is because of so much advertising clutter does not leave enough room for me to see the end of the text lines if i leave it left justified. Then I dont get to see the clutter at all.
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Thanks for all the feedback everyone!
We've spent the last several hours fiddling with colours, and have come to the conclusion - for now, subject to change! - that blue will work, so we've changed the HUBB and main site to blue-ish links.
It's a softer "steel blue" than the hard bright default blue (that we hated), and we think works well with our colour scheme. We even like the tawny orange bullet points > against the blue - really stands out!
Hopefully you'll all like it, if not please let us know.
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...So I know pleasing everyone will be impossible. But is is easy to antagonise more people with careful selection of gimmicky colours
...as the resolutions increase so I get to see less and less of what the developers are pushing out. It really is self defeating. ...Then I dont get to see the clutter at all.
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Pleasing everyone - Absolutely impossible! And people are resistant to change too.
As for developers wasting time - remember that most desktop computers are 1366 or wider, and most people run at full resolution. So, while it's a waste of time on you, over 70% of our visitors are quite happy at 1280 resolution. And the part that matters the most, the content, is at 1024.
Colour blindness affects at most 6% of the population from my reading, and that's one type of color blindness, the rest of the issues are all under .01%!
Hopefully it's now best for all.
thanks for the input!
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This is nicer than the burnt orange; thanks!
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Aaaaaaaahhhhh
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ahhhh +1 ! almost duck egg blue- Good choice Susan
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Me too, I'm happy with the new colour.
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Quote:
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Pleasing everyone - Absolutely impossible! And people are resistant to change too.
As for developers wasting time - remember that most desktop computers are 1366 or wider, and most people run at full resolution. So, while it's a waste of time on you, over 70% of our visitors are quite happy at 1280 resolution. And the part that matters the most, the content, is at 1024.
Colour blindness affects at most 6% of the population from my reading, and that's one type of color blindness, the rest of the issues are all under .01%!
Hopefully it's now best for all.
thanks for the input!
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If I ran at full resolution the text would be too small for me to read ![Sad](https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/images/smilies/sad.gif)
I had to go up to 1150 something for another site. Nice to know I can drop back to 1024 here for a more comfy read
Update, Nope 1024 no good, I miss a bit either side of this edit box ( only a bit )
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If I ran at full resolution the text would be too small for me to read ![Sad](https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/images/smilies/sad.gif)
I had to go up to 1150 something for another site. Nice to know I can drop back to 1024 here for a more comfy read
Update, Nope 1024 no good, I miss a bit either side of this edit box ( only a bit )
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Have you ever tried just using the browser "ctrl and +" hotkey to enlarge everything? (Hold down ctrl key, and tap +)
Keep tapping for even larger, and tap - instead of + for smaller, and ctrl-0 to set back to standard.
hope that helps!
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