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affordable tour organiser for China
Does anyone know a tour organiser who can arrange paperwork and travel permits for China Tibet at a reasonable rate. We are a group of six trying to organise a ride but being quoted US$6600 P/P just for paperwork guide and vehicle? 
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Maybe try CITS
Hi Stephen,
I'd looked at a China leg for a RTW next year.
It got a tad too expensive to do on my own bike ( bit big it seems ! ) , but for 6 the price might be much better than what you'd mentioned.
The Compnay was China International Travel service, agent contact was Shu Yu( [shuyu [*AATT*] cits {*DoTT*} com {*DoTT*} cn ).
Do you have dates and itinerary etc. sorted ??
Cheers !
Frank.
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Thanks for that. will try him, but you can't hold your breath with CITS. We plan to start in April-May 2010 and have an itinerary for China but will default to Vladivostok if we don't get a reasonable price.
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China next year
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Thanks for that. will try him, but you can't hold your breath with CITS. We plan to start in April-May 2010 and have an itinerary for China but will default to Vladivostok if we don't get a reasonable price.
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Hi Simon,
Please keep in touch as your dates match my RTW plan and if China works then I'd like to throw my hat in with your group. I had Vietnam included in that run, but now plan to do both countries another time and instead freight from Bankok to Dhaka.
I've traveled to China a few times, had a good itinerary and have reasonable language skills, the thing about CITS and CTS is they are both 'part of the system", so when they put their name on a booking, it should be good.
Over the years I've seen some others that were anything but !.
Cheers and hope it works-out !
Frank 
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6 of us, in cars, have just crossed China using:
China Adventure Tour, trekking, overland, festivals, special travel – NAVO
Tracy our guide was excellent! Between mine & my mates car being dumped in Kazakhstan and her having to organise a long distance taxi driver, writing a contract which could be tested, delays, sickness and me leaving in Kunming and her organising flights.....
The price was good and they can be flexible with the import duties for small groups.
I would highly recommend them!
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Hi Simon,
Please keep in touch as your dates match my RTW plan and if China works then I'd like to throw my hat in with your group. I had Vietnam included in that run, but now plan to do both countries another time and instead freight from Bankok to Dhaka.
I've traveled to China a few times, had a good itinerary and have reasonable language skills, the thing about CITS and CTS is they are both 'part of the system", so when they put their name on a booking, it should be good.
Over the years I've seen some others that were anything but !.
Cheers and hope it works-out !
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Hi Frank
Tried the CITS people in Beijing after they were recommended by the Chinese Aust. Ambassador. Good for about 5 Emails but when it got down to the nitty gritty of organising things he just stopped responding to my Emails. I guess the Government employees do not really have to work if they do not want to as they get paid regardless. We have decided not to bother with China which is a pity but easier. We are going to ship to Japan instead and make our way across via Russia and Mongolia. We did alot of working out itineraries etc. with "Echo" from Plateau Tours who was good but just could not get the price for paper work within reasonable range. At one stage we looked at crossing into China from Laos, instead of Shanghai Thus cutting our planned time in China in half but this was still going to be over US$4000 p.p.
Simon
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Me too!!!
Hello everyone from Spain!
I'm planning on travelling though China next year as well for my RW project. My ideal itinerary would be entering the country (sept 5th - 10th) through Mongolia (Shainshan) and doing Beijing, Xian, Lanzhou, Lhasa, Bhutan and Katmandhu, and then heading South o India.
Please let me know your thoughts and itinerary, I think it could be really interesting to organize a trip together, departuring, for example, from Ulanbataar.
Please write to yo (at) saliadarunavuelta (dot) com for details.
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Hi there
although I haven't been to China myself, having spent the last few months in the 'Stans and Mongolia I have met quite a lot of people who have gone that way. if you are still looking for more price quotes then read on
a Swiss truck and Australian van crossed out of here (Mongolia) into China last week- they seemed to have a reasonable price- though the contact email for the guy is not a proper company one- it seems like he does a good job - Mr Wang Lun
nature then underscore then lunwang [*AAT*] the hot place (you know the one)
one thing to be aware of is that many people who are doing the longer routes across China have been finding the travel taking longer than expected due to poor road conditions and major roadworks. They have been riding and driving for very long days to cover the distance and get across in the allotted number of days. So take this into consideration when you are planning your time in China.
Good luck.
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yeah!!
I've contacted Mr. Wang Lun.
I'll keep you informed.
Thanks.
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I've contacted Mr. Wang Lun.
I'll keep you informed.
Thanks.
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Hi,
I'd be keen to see what Mr. Wang Lun offers. I have had a few quotes from others and they are not worth considering. I noted that one tour operator states in their quote that you now have to leave a substantial deposit on your motor bike at the border that is redeemable when you leave. Though not immediately.
Anybody else out there come across this yet?
Simon
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Does anyone know a tour organiser who can arrange paperwork and travel permits for China Tibet at a reasonable rate. We are a group of six trying to organise a ride but being quoted US$6600 P/P just for paperwork guide and vehicle? |
If you are interested in riding Sidecars, in detail a Chang Jiang 750 (Copy of the BMW R 71) in Tibet. I have some of them in Lhasa and can organise a Trip for you. Budget for a two week Trip start from Shaghai to Lhasa, ride to Everest Base Camp and around then back to Lhasa and back to Shanghai for about 3500 USD full package p.P
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Hi,
We are 3 french people doing a long road trip this summer from India to Paris, via Pakistan, China and Khirgizistan. We plan to arrive at the Pakistani-Chinese border between the 21st of August and the 30th of August. We will then need a guide from Pundjerab pass up to the Khirgiz-Chinese border, as asked by the chinese authorities. We are currently looking for people who would like to join us to reduce the costs, and we are also asking several touring agencies to try and find the best price (for now the best we have found was 550$/pers, but seems strange, as it is quite lower than the others). Feel free to reply to my post if you have any useful information, or if you want to join us!
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Hi,
We are 3 french people doing a long road trip this summer from India to Paris, via Pakistan, China and Khirgizistan. We plan to arrive at the Pakistani-Chinese border between the 21st of August and the 30th of August. We will then need a guide from Pundjerab pass up to the Khirgiz-Chinese border, as asked by the chinese authorities. We are currently looking for people who would like to join us to reduce the costs, and we are also asking several touring agencies to try and find the best price (for now the best we have found was 550$/pers, but seems strange, as it is quite lower than the others). Feel free to reply to my post if you have any useful information, or if you want to join us!
Thanks a lot,
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Samuel
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Locals living around northern KKH (Gilgit & Hunza) in Pakistan dont need visas to visit or work in China and many of them own businesses there. They can be a good source of information and contacts in China. You will be crossing this area on your way.
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Hi Omie,
thanks for your reply. In the meantime we have contacted several touring agent, and have received the following quote:
If the 3 motorcycles and stay in China 5 days the cost is: 1300 USD The cost in detail is as following: 1 Permit for enter China: 50 USD2 license plates: 30 USD *3 motorcycles = 90 USD 3 Insurance for the guest: 10 USD p/p *3= 30 USD 4 Insurance for the third person: 40 USD *3 / motorcycles = 120 USD 5 Fee for the Customs: Khoqirap Pass: 200 USD for three motorcycles Turgart pass: 200 USD for three cycles 6 Driving License: 20 USD *3= 60 USD 7 Service for the guide: 80 USD a day * 5 days= 400 USD 8 Trance for the guide: 150 USD. ( Kashgar –Khonqirap Pass and Kashgar- Irkeshitan pass).
Do you know a bit about the details? For instance the customs fee seems huge, and I don't know what "Trance for the guide" means...
Thanks a lot,Best regards,Samuel
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Hi Sam,
Entry into Pakistan from Khanjerab is a preferred route and the only one where you can get VOI. I havent taken my bike to China (prefer renting or buying 125 cc) so cant comment but HUBBERS like Donato (Dnicolletti), Fabian (Saliadarunavuelta) and many others who crossed China should be able to help.
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