Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > West and South Asia
West and South Asia From Turkey to Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, India, Nepal, Ladakh and Bangladesh
Photo by Carl Parker, Always curious Tibetans, Tibet, China

Destination ANYWHERE...
Adventure EVERYWHERE!


Photo by Carl Parker,
Always curious Tibetans,
Tibet, China



Like Tree17Likes

 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #1  
Old 10 Jan 2014
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Paris, France
Posts: 46
Crossing Myanmar, the complete story

Hi everyone, I made the promise earlier to make this report, so here we go :

First, what everyone here wants to know : what do you need to make this crossing?

For us, the story of crossing Myanmar began last year in April. We were preparing our RTW trip and wanted to arrive in SEA without taking neither a boat nor a plane. After a lot of research we found that two Italian people did that on a motorbike. They told us that they have discussed during 3 months with the Myanmar embassy in Rome and after that they have been delivered a letter from one Myanmar ministry stating that they can enter from the Moreh-Tamu border. It was the only information we had at the moment.

I went to the Myanmar embassy in Paris in the beginning of May and explained to one Myanmar woman working there our project : "we are leaving on a honeymoon in July, we will be at the Indian/Myanmar border in December, we would like to cross your country with our motorbike, is it possible?". I was quite impressed, because I thought I would have to fight to obtain some information but she answered directly: "yes, it is possible. Your itinerary needs to be approved by our ministry, so please send a letter to the embassy explaining your project and the itinerary and the ambassador will discuss it with the ministry". Wow. This was a happy day at home.

We prepared the letter and sent it. We asked for 30 days in the country and put only a rough itinerary including the following cities: Myitkyina , Bhamo, Katha, Kyaukmyaung Mandalay, Bagan, Pyay, Yangon, Inlay lake, Kengng Taug

We received a mail 2 days later saying that the government didn't allow foreigners to go to myitkyina ,Bhamo and Katha.

We sent a second letter without those cities, the ambassador submitted it to the ministry.

One month later we received an answer from the embassy saying that the ministry wanted to have a more detailed schedule, including the places we wanted to visit,… so we sent a third letter with as many details as possible.

One month later, at the end of July we received a last mail saying "our ministry replied us they can not allow that trip. Sorry". We called them and sent several mails to tell we can change the itinerary but we didn't obtain some answer anymore.

Then I began to look for some agencies able to help us with the needed letter required for the border crossing. I obtained good answers from two people but one of them seemed more trustworthy. We explained him what we wanted/needed and ended up with a proposal for a 12 days crossing including 3 rest days. We chose to trust him, he said he would wait for us on the Myanmar side of the border on December, 8th in the morning.

He told us he could not help us with the permits needed on the Indian side and gave us a contact to help us. Honestly it seems to us that you don't need anything now to travel in the North-East of India. We had the information that the only states for which you need a permit are Sikkim and Arunashal Pradesh and we don't need to cross them to reach the Myanmar border.

If we except the soldier who kept us one hour in Assam because we didn't have a visa for Assam (he seemed to believe that his state was independent, who knows…) we didn't have any problem before reaching the border of Manipur. And by the way, Nagaland is worth it, very, very nice.

We have been stopped at the Manipur border. The Indian agent called the policemen to tell them that we were coming, but we guess that if we had shown up by ourselves we wouldn't have had any problem. There is an office in which we have been asked to fill one kind of immigration document : the usual stuff and one hotel address needed. They also have to put a stamp in your passport. Ask them because they forgot ours, we needed to go back to this office.

In Manipur we felt that there was almost no westerner who came here before, it was very nice. We stayed one night in Imphal where it seems that there is a curfew at night because the only people in the streets were soldiers with rifles.

We then took the road to the Myanmar border. I have never been stopped and controlled so many times by the police/the army. At some place they stopped us, looked at all our luggage, let us go then do this again 2 kms away and ask Laure to go in a cabin to be checked by women. It was long but everytime the soldiers/the police were polite and nice. No hassle.

We arrived at Moreh, the border town at the end of the afternoon. The Indian agent told us to meet his assistant M. Bobby at the Moreh Trade Center. Actually it appears that the Moreh Trade Center is a hotel and M. Bobby is the boss. He began with a lot of apologies. We were waiting, worried that those apologies were because we wouldn't be able to cross the border the day after. Actually it was only because there was someone from the government there this night so he was unable to propose us the "VIP room 1". All the unbelievable things begin here, there are still some stuff we don't understand.

We were offered "VIP room 2" and had a nice night. In the morning one reporter from Reuters came to interview us as we were among the first westerners there. Then M. Bobby told us we were invited. Then we rode with M. Bobby to the police/immigration building followed by the Reuters team still shooting us.

The immigration officer asked us to show him the letter we should have from the Myanmar president. We had nothing to show him. He asked "your embassy didn't give you a letter?" We answered "no, but we have one friend waiting for us on the other side".

The officer was very smart, he didn't want to stamp our passports out as according to him we wouldn't be allowed to enter in Myanmar. It seems that this has already happened there. So he proposed us to let us go to the Myanmar side with one soldier without stamping our passports, then come back to him if everything was ok. So we went, waited again at some military checkpoint checking I don't know what, still with this guy from Reuters and his camera, filming everything and even yelling at one soldier once. Crazy.

We finally arrived at this legendary iron bridge, the border between India and Myanmar. There was one guy wearing a military hat waiting for us. He was our agent. We were really, really happy to see him, we shook hands, we also shook hands to the immigration people who were all expecting us. Our agent yelled at the poor Indian soldier who came with us that he had all the permits (including the famous letter from the president) for us and that we were greatly expected and welcome in Myanmar. The poor soldier was really peeing in his pants. We went back to the Indian side with him, the immigration boss told us again and again "I am really sorry, I didn't know you were so important…". He stamped our passports, even allowing us to take pictures of it.

As it was Sunday the customs were closed, he sent someone find the customs officer, they opened their building for us to be able to do the paperwork, including stamping our carnets de passage.

We crossed again the iron bridge and just had to sign the papers as everything was already filled for us. And all the immigration/customs people were very welcoming and happy to see us.

The Myanmar story begins here, and I won't tell you everything. You should see it by yourself! Now we know that it is possible to cross Myanmar to go from India to Thailand.

Honestly, what our agent prepared for us was just perfect, except maybe the last 3 riding days which were too long for us. But it is definitely one major highlight of our trip so far. All the hotels/restaurants were booked, we had wonderful English speaking guides when needed, we learnt a lot about Myanmar.

You have to know that there are some check points on the roads in Myanmar and for each of them the soldiers had some copies of our passports and registration papers before we arrived. Everytime they knew we were going to come, and when. Our agent (who stayed with us the whole time) told us that we could not change the itinerary because of this. We had to ride through the checkpoints when it was planned to.

To every overlander planning to reach SEA from India I would say the following : You can cross Myanmar and you will have a wonderful experience. You need a letter from the president and I believe it is possible to obtain it from the Myanmar embassy in your country. This can take 3 months, so prepare it long time before your trip. We don't know why our request was denied but we guess that we asked for too many days. You ca try to copy our itinerary. Once you obtain this letter there will be someone in Myanmar who will tell to the checkpoints when you will cross them.

If you don't succeed in doing this by yourself or if you want someone to help you, you can contact Tin, our agent, who is a wonderful guy to work and talk with. He will prepare your trip the way you want it. He allowed us to put his mail address here : tin.apex <{AATT}>> gmail [[DDOTT]] com. Please try not to bother him if you are not really interested. He also told us that he would prefer to be contacted only once you have set up a group of 10-15 bikers to make good prices otherwise it would be very expensive. He kept on telling us during the trip that he made something special for us because it is a honeymoon. We are very grateful for everything he prepared for us.

We'll make at least three articles about Myanmar on our website, the first is already on line here : Cardpostale | A honeymoon around the world.

I hope this is complete enough, nevertheless if you have any question, feel free to ask.

Guillaume

Last edited by Chris of Japan; 20 Jan 2014 at 23:38. Reason: No unedited third party addresses in posts. It attracts spam to that person
Reply With Quote
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Complete Central America/Mexico/Colombia Border Crossing Information sellheim Central America and Mexico 30 6 Mar 2023 23:33
China to Pakistan via KKH Sept 2014 and Myanmar end 2014 michelle2011 Travellers Seeking Travellers 16 11 Jul 2014 10:18
Crossing Myanmar in december, who's in? cardpostale West and South Asia 31 8 Apr 2014 09:22
Convoy crossing myanmar sept/oct 2013 gremsbtk West and South Asia 13 20 Dec 2013 06:31
Villazon, Bolivia Border crossing Mr Steam Turbine South America 8 30 Nov 2011 13:27

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

25 years of HU Events
Be sure to join us for this huge milestone!

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

Virginia: April 24-27
Queensland is back! May 2-5
Germany Summer: May 29-June 1
Ecuador June 13-15
Bulgaria Mini: June 27-29
CanWest: July 10-13
Switzerland: Aug 14-17
Romania: Aug 22-24
Austria: Sept. 11-14
California: September 18-21
France: September 19-21
Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes.
(ONLY US RESIDENTS and currently has a limit of 60 days.)

Ripcord Evacuation Insurance is available for ALL nationalities.


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Every book a diary
Every chapter a day
Every day a journey
Refreshingly honest and compelling tales: the hights and lows of a life on the road. Solo, unsupported, budget journeys of discovery.
Authentic, engaging and evocative travel memoirs, overland, around the world and through life.
All 8 books available from the author or as eBooks and audio books



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 20:24.