Hi again

Have contacted Newland travel in kyrgystan for passage to pakistan via china, was quoted $1900 Us, !!! Expensive .... He mentioned two different passes : tourgat and Irkeshtam.

Now roughly how long does it take to reach kyrgystan from Uk, as I need a entry date and hopefully try to find people to share the guides with. I am setting off in August .

Have attached the price list received from Kashgar New Land Travel.
1. Have anyone used them recently?
2. I have heard of a caravan cafe , but do not seem to find any detailes about them.
3.Is it possible to get a chines visa, and at the border load the bikes on a truck and get the bike to pakistan that way?
Has anyone tried crossing Afganistan via tajiskatan in to pakistan , souds suiicidal ,but things has changed .


Price list received from Newlandtravel
Day1
Fri
Arrive from Osh to irkreshtan meet our guide and driver ,declerae all customs paper work drive down to Kashgar . check in
Qinbagh Hotel
B

Day2
Sat
stay at kashgar prepare rest ..
Qinbagh Hotel
B

Day3
Sun
Visiting kashgar famous highlights Sunday bazzar, with Abak hoja Tombs which is built 1640, Old town , Idkah Mosque one of largest mosque in China …
Qinbagh Hotel

Day4
Mon
Kashgar to Tashkorgan , on the road visit Karakul lake , mountain views of Mt.Mustaghgata , Kungur
Ben Lei Xin Hotel
B

Day5
Tue
Tashkorgan Exit Pakistan to Sust . service end

Kashgar New Land International Travel Service Co. ltd
Price :
Permits : 800USD$ / per Motorbikes
Customs declarations: 200USD$/Enter/ Exit total.
Guide : 45USD$/ per day X4days=180USD$
Guide Car transportations: 180USD$/per day X3days=540USD$. (During rest , not serve)
Hotel: 45USD$/ per night/per room X4nights=180USD$
Total : 1900USD$

Price Include : mentions above permits…..Enter / Exit Border registrations , Vehicle registrations .driver registrations , Insurance fee . Chinese Number plates , driving license …etc…
English speaking guide , guide transportations , hotel Accommodations, Kashgar/ Tashkorgan.

Price not include : Oil , Petroleum fee, High way tax , laundry service , Hotel Minibar tipping local stuff …..etc…."

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Hi there,

We are thinking of going the same time and have had 4 different quotes. There are 3 of us definitely, me and my wife Jenny in a Land Rover, and a friend on a bike. A 4th guy from the HUBB is also going to confirm his dates and possibly come with us. We are open to more travelling with us at this time.

We are aiming to get to China fro 25th August and enter Pakistan on 1st September, taking about a week. By the itinerary we got it would seem that a week is more than enough time to do it.

The last I heard the Caravan Cafe was closed down, although Steve who used to run it did reappear at one point, but he didn't answer my last few emails.

The quotes I got were quite varied, but if you PM me or email me (email address on our website, see link below) I will email them to you and we can chat. I will try and get them into something logical and put them up here, or on my similar thread, at some time.

Cheers

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Land's End to Sydney 2009

We looked into the Afghanistan crossing, but everyone warned us off it. Apaprently if you could just pop across the Wakkhan (sp) corrider then it might be OK, but there is no path across there, and you would end up travelling much further than it looks on the map, and you would also be straying into much more dangerous areas ..

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Below are the details of the quotes we got. We are undecided at the moment. Obviously the cheapest is appealing, but Stan Tours is highly recommended and we are using him for our 'Stans visas.

The middle ground is Wayne (or July Xie) who came highly recommended from Steve at the Caravan Cafe ......

See below:

Stan Tours
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Ollie and Jenny USD 950 each (1 car, twin room)
Russ USD 1,680 (1 bike, single room)
Then maybe a saving of $1-200 dollars for an additional bike

ZZ Tours
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Aug25 Kyrgyzstan-Torugart pass-Kashgar o/n Kashgar
Drive to Kashgar visa Torugart pass,our guide will meet you at the
boarder,then drive to the customs,our guide will help you check
in.and then continue driving to Kasghar
Aug26 sightseeing in Kashgar o/n Kashgar
Visit the Id Ghar Mosque,the Apark Hojha tomb(also called Fragrant
Concubine tomb),excursion to the Old part of the town,and Handicraft
street.
Aug27 Kashgar-Dawakun desert(a part of Taklamkan desert) o/n camping
Drive to Dawakun desert,enjoy the magnificent the desert view,you
also could stay overnight on the dedert.
Aug 28 Drive back to Kashgar. o/n Kasghar
Aug 29 Kashgar-Aoyitak glacier o/n yurt or guesthouse
Drive to Aoyitak glacier part,you could enjoy the glaciers.
Aug 30 Aoyitak-Karakul Lake o/n Yurt
Drive to Karaul lake along Karakarum highway,on arrival,enjoy the
magnificent Muztagh-Ata(7546m in altitude)--"the father of
Glacier",and Konger mountains(7719m in altitude).then overnight in
the local yurt along the lakeside.
Aug 31 Karaul lake-Taxkurgan o/n hotel
Drive 100km to Taxkurgan, visit the Stone City,Golden Valley,and
experience local Tajiks living style.
optional: there is a new best hotel in Taxkurgan,it is Crown Inn,managed by Singaport hotel management.it is a 4 star hotel ,and the room rate is also not expensive.
Sep 01 Drive to Sust(in pakistan)
Our local guide will see you off to Pakistan.and end of your wonderful and charming trip in China.
the quotation: 1350usd
service included:
1.All permits to China for 2 motorcycles and 1 Land Rover.
2.English-speaking guide from Torugart pass to Taxkurgan 3.China temporary driving licence and temporary car plate.
4.transportation for our guide from Kashgar-Torugart pass,Taxkurgan-Kashgar
Service not included:
1.All meals
2.Sightseeing entrance tickets
3.Accommodation

China Exporation
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The cost for your trip with 1car 2 motor bike, 4 driver or travellers making 7 days trip in China, the cost is US 3950.00. It include the cost for all of the government paper works, temporal driving license, temporal plate, guide service, guide's meals, accomodation, vehicle insurance for the third people's killing. Not include your oil, vehicle maintenance, reparation work, toll gate fee, accommodation, meal, tour site tickets


Julie Xie/Wayne (who used to do the tours for Caravan Cafe)
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To drive your vehicles to China, you have to provide us the following information as.
1/ photocopy of each vehicle, which was taken at an angle of 45 degrees, by which we can see clearly the provinonal plate number.
2/ Photocopy of drivers licence
3/ photocopy of vehicle registration certificate
4/ Vehicle serial number
5/vehicle frame number
6/ Engine number
7/ Vehicle make, model, year, engine size & type
8/ Uploaded vehicle weight
9/ Vehicle colour
10/ Specify right or left drive
11/ vehicle test report
For each person:
1/ Name
2/ Citizenship
3/ Passport No
4/ Male/Female
5/ Occupation

The cost for your team will be 1980US$, which includes the permit, driving license and the guide to meet you and send you off at the border.

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Thank you very much. I wish I could join you , but can not leave until late july and aim to reach the chinese border late september or october.

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Just quick question, have you got all the visas in place? specially the chinese one, or are you going to get it on route

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