Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > West and South Asia
West and South Asia From Turkey to Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, India, Nepal, Ladakh and Bangladesh
Photo by Ulrike Hahnel, Rock Formations on the Lagune Route, Bolivia

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Ulrike Hahnel,
Rock Formations on the
Lagune Route, Bolivia



Like Tree2Likes
  • 1 Post By eurasiaoverland
  • 1 Post By Bartosz

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 2 Nov 2019
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Poland
Posts: 273
Route in Pakistan - question

Hello folks
As I know there is one border crossing from Iran to Pakistan in Mirajaveh and then route to Quetta with escort.
But if I will be in Karachi can I drive by Bela, Panjgor, Quila Ladgasth and get border crossing without escort?
I mean is it possible to drive another route back to Iran (not from Quetta)??
__________________
Bartosz
www.wyprawy4x4.com.pl
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 3 Nov 2019
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Brunei
Posts: 939
You can try, but you'll most likely be caught by police long before getting anywhere close to the border (I was in a local looking car and got caught in a town taking photos). It's a dream trip of mine though, but be sure the roads you see on Google etc actually exist.

To have any chance to do it alone, you'll need to be in a low-profile vehicle (no silly overland stickers / accessories), local style plates, local dress. You won't slip through if you are obviously European looking or have a family with you. You'll need to stock up on provisions so that you can avoid stopping in cities.

Even with all this, my cover was blown in Pasni, but I got a gunman and was allowed to continue to Gwadar (from where I wanted to check if the southern border was open to foreigners - it is not). Perhaps if I'd been really persistent I could have persuaded them to allow me through Turbat and Panjgur to Kharan with an escort, but I seriously doubt it.

But doing it alone, I would say you have basically no chance.

EO
__________________
EurasiaOverland a memoir of one quarter of a million kilometres by road through all of the Former USSR, Western and Southern Asia.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 3 Nov 2019
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Poland
Posts: 273
Thank you eurasiaoverland

So it is mean that will be immpossible to do it with my two overland Toyota's. There are rather visibile.
Do you think Karachi is possible?
But then Makran Coastal Highway not possible and only Bela, Khuzdar, Kalat and Quetta??
__________________
Bartosz
www.wyprawy4x4.com.pl
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 3 Nov 2019
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Brunei
Posts: 939
I used to live briefly in Sindh (Hyderabad), a truly enchanting part of Pakistan. I'm not sure if Karachi's traffic police will stop you - once you are out on the Bela - Khuzdar - Quetta highway there are few checkpoints and they are not used to foreigners, so who knows, maybe you can sneak through. Near Quetta it seems certain you will attract an escort as they watch for foreigners.

I would try to cut up from Khuzdar to Kharan. I was caught quickly in Kharan (there's a neglected old castle) and escorted to Nushki. Quetta us maybe my favourite city in Pakistan, but it seems that foreigners are not allowed to leave the hotel there. Being very, very low profile is the key.

Just try your luck. But like I said, I doubt you will get far without escorts.

Karachi us fun, enjoy your freedom there!
__________________
EurasiaOverland a memoir of one quarter of a million kilometres by road through all of the Former USSR, Western and Southern Asia.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 4 Nov 2019
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Lahore
Posts: 13
Travelling in Pakistan

Hello Friend!!! hmmmm, its unpredicable specially travelling in Baluchistan. mostly overlanders use N-50 to N-70 end up with Lahore through N-5. The route you are talking about is more difficult and unsafe. if you ask from me I totally recommend you from Karachi take coastal highway till Gawadar, but going further I'm not sure, as police is not happy to see local travellers and don't let them go from there to Quetta without escort. so its seems like un possible.

Best
SHAH
kARAKORAM BIKERS
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 4 Nov 2019
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Poland
Posts: 273
Hello Hamzashah
I will take route to Quetta and then to Peshawar and north. During way back I want to go to Karachi and try further to Gwadar.
We will see what happened. Thank you for info.
__________________
Bartosz
www.wyprawy4x4.com.pl
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Route advise for Central Asia Daan-N Route Planning 2 9 Jul 2019 17:29
Crossing Pakistan to Iran - route and NOC? strobbia West and South Asia 3 25 Apr 2018 22:12
1100GS gearbox question - in Pakistan Animalaum BMW Tech 7 3 Jul 2017 01:10
Pakistan Visa - urgent help needed! Bensouthall West and South Asia 9 14 May 2015 21:44
Moldova/Ukraine insurance and route question dobeonguard Route Planning 1 4 Aug 2014 07:52

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

ALL Dates subject to change.

2024:

  • California: April 18-21
  • Virginia: April 25-28
  • Germany Summer: May 9-12
  • Québec: May 17-19
  • Bulgaria Mini: July 5-7
  • CanWest: July 11-14
  • Switzerland: August 15-18
  • Ecuador: August 23-25
  • Romania: August 30-Sept 1
  • Austria: September 12-15
  • France: September 20-22
  • Germany Autumn: Oct 31-Nov 3

2025 Confirmed Events:

  • Virginia: April 24-27 2025
  • Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025
  • Germany Summer: May 29-June 1 2025
  • CanWest: July 10-13 2025
  • Switzerland: Date TBC
  • Ecuador: Date TBC
  • Romania: Date TBC
  • Austria: Sept. 11-15
  • California: September 18-21
  • France: September 19-21 2025
  • Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2 2025

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:15.