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2011 G650GS or NEW Versys 650 dilemma

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it's not that easy, on scooter she can ride in skirt....







...... and heels ..... because she's only 5'2" :-)


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There's a new kid on the block which I've only just heard about......Honda X-ADV......
From what I've seen looks like an adventure style maxi-scooter.
For those reading the previous posts re:- what my wife will ride, it may be a compromise.
Has anybody even seen one of these machines yet?


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That is a pretty cool Scooter! I like it! Looks large enough to travel with pillion in comfort! Easy to ride, decent cargo space. I'd like to test ride one!

Downside is cost ($15,000 USD approx 9K UKP) and Weight: 238 kg. (525 lbs.)

That is 200 lbs. heavier than a nice 250 dual sport ... and about the same as
Vstrom or Versys. But IMO, all good choices for where you are. The Scooter
might be the best choice ... if they sell them there?

It's a cool looking scooter !
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That is a pretty cool Scooter! I like it! Looks large enough to travel with pillion in comfort! Easy to ride, decent cargo space. I'd like to test ride one!



Downside is cost ($15,000 USD approx 9K UKP) and Weight: 238 kg. (525 lbs.)



That is 200 lbs. heavier than a nice 250 dual sport ... and about the same as

Vstrom or Versys. But IMO, all good choices for where you are. The Scooter

might be the best choice ... if they sell them there?



It's a cool looking scooter !


Yeh I've been looking at the reviews on YouTube today. It seems to be quite a capable and very cool looking machine....BUT the PRICE!!!!! Crazy expensive. It would have been perfect for me either alone or 2-up, or for my wife alone for her normal town riding, but it's just priced way out of my budget.
Shame :-(


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2011 G650GS or NEW Versys 650 dilemma

Did I make the right decision.........?
Before I selected my final 3 (Versys, V-strom or G650GS) I had the chance to buy a 1-owner 2011 R1200GS . It was about 25% more expensive but is undoubtably the KING of adventure bikes.
I passed up on the chance because of 2 factors. 1)- dealer backup ( there isn't any in my province), and also the fact that my island is only 400km end-to-end, and 25km wide......rather a waste of resources (but like booking a 40ft container the move your sofa) .
As much as I absolutely ADORE the big GS, I think it was a wise decision which I hope you all agree with.


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IMO you made the right decision passing on the R1200GS. As good as they are ...
(and they are VERY GOOD to ride), it is often the case that older ones are very high miles. Yes, BMW owners tend to take care of their bikes ... but still.

The BMW Kool-Aid crowd will tell you they never wear out. Total PoppyCock!
(just ask Touring Ted!) We get used GS's here all the time time, many with 50K to 100K miles on them ... and still asking a fairly high price. Most never sell ... and in a year the guy finally has to lower the price but A LOT.

No matter how well they have been looked after, eventually things can fail. With BMW it's often expensive drive line or trans issues or computer/software failure and more.

I would take your time and test ride bikes you can get hold of. See what you think. You don't need to cross continents ... but someday, if you move, the BMW could be a good bike ... if you can afford good one.

A riding buddy recently bought a 2016 LQ GS for $25,000 USD. He's got some money, has 6 other bikes besides that new GS.
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IMO you made the right decision passing on the R1200GS. As good as they are ...
(and they are VERY GOOD to ride), it is often the case that older ones are very high miles. Yes, BMW owners tend to take care of their bikes ... but still.

The BMW Kool-Aid crowd will tell you they never wear out. Total PoppyCock!
(just ask Touring Ted!) We get used GS's here all the time time, many with 50K to 100K miles on them ... and still asking a fairly high price. Most never sell ... and in a year the guy finally has to lower the price but A LOT.

No matter how well they have been looked after, eventually things can fail. With BMW it's often expensive drive line or trans issues or computer/software failure and more.

I would take your time and test ride bikes you can get hold of. See what you think. You don't need to cross continents ... but someday, if you move, the BMW could be a good bike ... if you can afford good one.

A riding buddy recently bought a 2016 LQ GS for $25,000 USD. He's got some money, has 6 other bikes besides that new GS.


It was a 2011 model, 1 owner, BMW serviced from new, 32,000km, so I think it had a lot of life remaining which made the decision to pass on it rather more difficult. But I'm glad you agree with my reasoning. Thanks for your input.


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I've added the Suzuki V-Strom 650 to my list as it would appear to be a little better at light off-roading than the Versys. So the choice is now between a 650Versys, the V-Strom650 and the slightly used BMW G650GS.


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Suzuki V-Strom 650 XT arriving in Philippines late July 2017. Price Php514,000 (US$ 10,100).
Subject to an OK test ride, this will be my choice.

Big enough for 2-up touring around my island. Rugged enough for occasional off-tarmac dirt and gravel roads.......
Can't wait to start my new adventure.
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I just Bought a 2014 g650gs in Colombia low kms 2550 10 grand Canadian and love it
Colombia is a big country with countless roads well travelled
this shit about BMWs and the Kool Aid crowd is nonsense if you want to live in a cave go ahead
here is a good example of what my friend described in Colombia
we go on day rides or multi day rides and always stop at some point in the the trip to visit a Motorrad to shop or rectify mechanical issues and when we arrive, of course we give them heads up they give us a Head of state welcome
the Colombians are very social and warm so they invite you to there lounge and offer you scotch or what ever and it is served by a drop dead friendly hostess in high heals an a miniskirt
now this is service! viva Colombia
Colombian service is impressive for example if want a haircut it can cost you anywhere from 2 bucks to 20 the twenty buck haircut is amazing they serve you what ever your thirst requires and i guarantee you you will come out of there feeling like a new man
Koolaid is not in the dictionary so go back to your cave
I have worked too hard in my life to go with the usual and am a proud owner of a bmw
Bye the way i am divorced my kid has grown up and educated and i and i am in a continent i truly love with a job
BUY THE BMW YOU WONT REGRET IT unless you are a cheapskate
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2011 G650GS or NEW Versys 650 dilemma

I thought I'd update you on my final choice. Despite being tempted by a G650GS and a SERTAO, my final choice was a NEW DL650XT V-Strom.
My main reason for passing on the BMWs were simply down to availability of servicing in my province in Philippines. Basically the nearest BMW dealer is a 24 hour ferry ride away!!!!
So I pick up the new YELLOW Wee-Strom in about 2 weeks!
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I just Bought a 2014 g650gs in Colombia low kms 2550 10 grand Canadian and love it
Colombia is a big country with countless roads well travelled
this shit about BMWs and the Kool Aid crowd is nonsense if you want to live in a cave go ahead
here is a good example of what my friend described in Colombia
we go on day rides or multi day rides and always stop at some point in the the trip to visit a Motorrad to shop or rectify mechanical issues and when we arrive, of course we give them heads up they give us a Head of state welcome
the Colombians are very social and warm so they invite you to there lounge and offer you scotch or what ever and it is served by a drop dead friendly hostess in high heals an a miniskirt
now this is service! viva Colombia
Colombian service is impressive for example if want a haircut it can cost you anywhere from 2 bucks to 20 the twenty buck haircut is amazing they serve you what ever your thirst requires and i guarantee you you will come out of there feeling like a new man
Koolaid is not in the dictionary so go back to your cave
I have worked too hard in my life to go with the usual and am a proud owner of a bmw
Bye the way i am divorced my kid has grown up and educated and i and i am in a continent i truly love with a job
BUY THE BMW YOU WONT REGRET IT unless you are a cheapskate
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It was a 2011 model, 1 owner, BMW serviced from new, 32,000km, so I think it had a lot of life remaining
Yep plenty of life. My GSA has 10 times that mileage.

But you made the correct decision on the GS. Not really suited to your needs I think.
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