Hello guys,

Does anyone have experience with 2 up Honda CRF 450?

* (We are planning to go to Africa 2 up on off road and unpaved road)

None of the CRF 450 models are/were ever designed to take a passenger - you need to look at a different bike.

fwiw. if you are looking to ride on rough roads two-up, you need a bike with a strong subframe and comfortable seat.

You could do worse than choose the Honda CB500X with the Rally-Raid wheel and suspension kit fitted - still a cosy/compact bike for two, but a good handful have been ridden the length of Africa now with no issues.

Riding with a passenger and your associated luggage really is going to limit the route you take to established dirt roads. Any of the larger ADV bikes would handle that on the right tyres.

Food for thought I hope...

Jenny x

Jenny is spot on here. The Crf450L isnt designed for two up riding. It doesnt even have pillion footpegs. Except from that it has 7,6 liter fueltank which with luggage and lets say an imaginary pillion would take you maybe 150-175 kms if ridden very easy. Thats a patetic range imo. It also requires oil change every 1000 km and valve check every 3000 km. Even though one could probably stretch it a bit it is ridiciously short intervals. Its a enduro competition machine and never meant for long distance riding and never meant to be ridden two up.

https://powersports.honda.com/2019/crf450l.aspx

Riding two up on bad roads requires what Jenny writes, strong subframe and comfortabel seat. I would also add suspension that can handle such conditions, far from all bikes comes standard with that.

In my opinion riding two up on gravel roads isnt much to aim for. Sure a firm gravel road isnt any big problem and can be enjoyable. But as soon as the roads starts to get sandy, gravelly, muddy, stoney, bumpy or full of potholes - the fun disappears very quickly. One can for sure manage a short stretch with such conditions, but long stretches, days, weeks - good luck!

If you really want to get off the beaten track maybe consider getting one bike each. That will make riding in rough conditions so much easier and enjoyable. And remember - lightweight bikes too! If you insist to ride two up on one bike it make more sense to stick to better roads, not totally off road.

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Is this your current bike...??? As the others have stated, please don't attempt to go 2-up on one of these not just Africa but anywhere. Time for a new bike, be excited...!!!

you can do this on CRF but not this one - get CRF1000L, that's the proper bike for 2up, not the dirt bike like 450L.

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