 |

21 Mar 2011
|
 |
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wirral, England.
Posts: 5,679
|
|
Aprilia Pegaso Trail (660) VS Yamaha XT660Z Tenere
There is very little info regarding the Pegaso Trail on the hubb compared to other bikes. This is probably due to them not being very popular.
Well, it has the same engine as the Tenere but it's A LOT cheaper to buy second hand. Literally 1000-1500 cheaper for the same mileage and age.
I know plenty about the Tenere but interested to hear real world Pegaso (660) stories and if anyone has owned both machines.
I found a couple of comparison specs.. Comparativa de YAMAHA XT 660 Z Tenere vs APRILIA Pegaso 650 Trail
The Pegaso is 168kg dry which is consideradly lighter than the tenere at 183kg
The tenere has a 23L tank compared to the Pegasos 16L
Tenere has 21" front wheel compared to the Pegasos 19.
Many thanks, Ted
__________________
Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.
Last edited by *Touring Ted*; 7 Sep 2014 at 19:02.
|

21 Mar 2011
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: North Lakes - UK
Posts: 159
|
|
I think you would be better placed pitching the XT660R against the Pegaso - more of a like-for-like comparison.
|

21 Mar 2011
|
 |
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: LONDONISTAN, England
Posts: 1,034
|
|
When did they start to use the Yam 660? always thought they used the BMW f650.
__________________
'He who laughs last, was too slow to get the joke'
Never confuse the map with the journey.
|

21 Mar 2011
|
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bristol, UK
Posts: 336
|
|
I had the old peg very briefly and had nothing but problems with it, so swapped it for a tiger.
The peg trail, I rode one on Borneo with: http://www.borneobikingadventures.com whilst oin honeymoon last year.
I felt it lacked a bit of grunt but was enjoyable to ride and felt fine on most of th e surfaces we rode. didn't do anything techincal as we were 2 up for the day tho.
|

21 Mar 2011
|
 |
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wirral, England.
Posts: 5,679
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by GasUp
I think you would be better placed pitching the XT660R against the Pegaso - more of a like-for-like comparison.
|
I totally agree with you....
BUT..... I was looking to buy the 660 Tenere as a first choice but used prices are still around the £4000 mark and even the 660R goes for 3000-3500.. The pegasos are about for the £2000 mark which is my current budget for a second bike.
__________________
Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.
|

21 Mar 2011
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: North Lakes - UK
Posts: 159
|
|
Thats a fair point Ted.
I've just had a look around and the prices are just daft, I've got 24k miles on mine, it's 3 years old (nearly) and I reckon it's cost me about £1k in lost value if the current prices are reached..... That's the closest I've come to making money on a bike in,,, erm lots of years!
JMo's fine machine is still for sale, though I think it's beyond your budget
..and I did see this on EvilBay -> Yamaha XT660R 2006 06reg BLUE CLEAN BIKE 12M.O.T on eBay (end time 02-Apr-11 11:33:23 BST)
|

22 Mar 2011
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: May 2007
Location: yorkshire
Posts: 362
|
|
Hi Ted
if it help's I have had a XT660R and now a XT660Z.
the R was used for two up touring doing over 5500 miles in 3 weeks 2 up. and still getting over 70mpg . I also entered a off road event on it.
It's a good bike.
The Z does all of that just a bit better.
If you look around you can still get a 08 Tenere for £3500.
Your right you can get a R for more than a £1000 less. If your doing most of your riding solo then the R will do it all.
|

27 Mar 2011
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: London
Posts: 286
|
|
Please under no circumstances consider a Pegaso. I bought one myself and it was the worst bike I have ever owned. I have had 5 Pegs of varying years from 95 onwards and they have always been good fire-road bikes, capable of a decent turn of speed and quite reliable other than a faulty water-pump, a common snag. They had a 5 valve rotax head instead of the 4 valve unit BMW fitted to the funduro. It made it a little quicker but cost more to run, either way it was still fine. The Cube was a great all rounder, faster than most bikes in the same class.
Eventually I bought the Trail. Different bike altogether. Build quality is absolutely appalling. My problems began with brake light switches going. The front crumbled into bits, the back snapped in half. I replaced them with upgraded switches. Next it fell off the stand at work (was pushed I think) and fell onto an old abandoned sofa. It tore off a mirror and did damage to the pegs. That worried me a lot, a tiny fall did a lot of damage and it fell on soft foam.
Then I used it through the winter and the engine finish peeled visibly off the bike. After that I tried to fit a power commander. Now on early bikes you have no choice, they simply will not run without it, later ones with 02 sensor you can't. Suddenly the bike stalled, died and never ran again. It intermittently showed fault codes for a failed temperature sensor and three other sensors as well as suddenly was not able to read the chip in the key. Then I found out on the various forums that this is a common fuel pump fault. The pump is 2 electric toy-car motors in a polythene bag. Nothing got it working but along the way I was horrified at the corners cut in the building of this bike. In the end a workaround fix was to kick the side of the tank where the pump was and yes, it ran again for an hour or so but when it rained the key sensor died. After doing some homework on the Aprillia forum this is a common fault, there are many more. The owners are oddly in love with their bikes but at one point the top 5 posts on the Pegaso forum was fuel pump failures.
I got burned on mine so please consider this when thinking of these bikes. They're also expensive to run, not as quick as an XT for some reason and the accessories are hard to find and Aprillia ones broke (mine did).
Your money is better spent elsewhere. I'm sorry for anyone who has one but when i did my homework trying to fix mine I found a lot out about these machines. 2 guys on the Aprillia forum used them to go over South America. 1 did break down several times.
Sorry guys... just don't do it...
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 2 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...
2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.
"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.
Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes.
(ONLY US RESIDENTS and currently has a limit of 60 days.)
Ripcord Evacuation Insurance is available for ALL nationalities.
What others say about HU...
"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia
"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK
"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia
"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA
"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada
"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa
"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia
"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany
Lots more comments here!

Every book a diary
Every chapter a day
Every day a journey
Refreshingly honest and compelling tales: the hights and lows of a life on the road. Solo, unsupported, budget journeys of discovery.
Authentic, engaging and evocative travel memoirs, overland, around the world and through life.
All 8 books available from the author or as eBooks and audio books
Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!
New to Horizons Unlimited?
New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!
Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.
Read more about Grant & Susan's story
Membership - help keep us going!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.
|
|
|