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Hi - the cog disc is missing from the front but present on the rear ??

Its really putting me off - apart from that the bike looks spot on !!

No ABS switch - but the seller is insistent it has rear abs
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In this case the rear cog only works as the sensor for the speedometer.
The seller only is lying, for be an ABS version has to be a front disc cog, sensor, button and a massive box with wires and hoses between the engine and the rear shock….
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Hi - thanks for the info..

Don't think he's lying he seems like a good chap

He was sold it last year and told it had ABS - I'm sure it's a genuine mistake

I was just confused as I was sure that you couldn't get retro fitted ABS - it wouldn't make any sense !!

So the cog on the rear wheel just operates the speedo ? Thanks for the info will try and lok at the bike again tomorrow.

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I would ask your question in the appropriate section of ADVrider as well, lots of Dakar riders over there. Sounds a little strange to have only rear ABS...
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Another way to make sure is to figure out how much would the total costs if you include all the mods you will have/want to do on both bikes.
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Normally I'd say the Beemer, but considering the ABS BS stories, I'd go for the Tenere. Look up the LHS fork to see if the brake hose splits on a bracket. The ABS bike has 2 front brake hoses going into a splitter bracket with solid brake lines on it routed to the ABS pump located behind the motor. There should also be a ABS sensor coming off the LHS fork.
Doubtfull history at best. God forbit it might have even been serviced by the BM dealer.
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In this case the rear cog only works as the sensor for the speedometer.
The seller only is lying, for be an ABS version has to be a front disc cog, sensor, button and a massive box with wires and hoses between the engine and the rear shock….
Exactly as javkap says. Non abs bikes have the ring on the rear for the speedo pickup. I wouldn't let this alone put you off the bike. If everything else is good and it is the bike you want you could try using it as a bargaining tool.

Since you do a bit of trailriding and are having to sell your lighter bike, have you thought what either of these bikes would be like on the trail? Both would be heavy and hard work on anything technical. I had this same dilema, a bike that is light enough for the trail but has the legs for regular road use. While I agree that the smaller bikes can do distance work they are very buzzy and not as comfortable as something a bit larger, while the larger bikes are not as good in the dirt. In the end I bought a g650 xchallenge, already scratched from off road use, for £3250. A lot lighter than either the dakar or tenere and better off road, but it still handles the road work in a degree of comfort. One of these, or perhaps a 640ktm, might be a better bike for your use if you intend to go trailriding.
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Look here: The BMW F650 Technical FAQs

More F650 info than you can shake a stick at.
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Tenere for me.
I had two F650's and then an old style Tenere. The BM's build quality is garbage. Both had engine paint fall off, both had electrical issues and the last one destroyed it's waterpump and timing gear with less than 40,000 miles on the clock. It's all about Rotax and BMW cutting corners to fleece people who want the badge.

The Yam was built to a price, but did everything you could ask. The only hassle was the rotting exhaust.

The new Tenere is a different generation of bike and everyone I've talked to about them raves about them.

The prices reflect this of course, but IMHO you are getting what you pay for.

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Tenere
Also picked up a 2009 Tenere for £4500 from the aforementioned dealer. I absolutely love it. I've ridden it on fire roads and short 'back lanes'. I was a fan of Bm's having had 1150 and 1200 GS's. While they are great tourers, once they are taken onto something less black and level they show their weaknesses, ie bulky, heavy. Boxers shown competing are virtually stripped and rebuilt with very expensive very light bits I would say. Also lack the tent, luggage etc etc. The Tenere still feels like a big bike physically (I like the feel and height/presence of a big bike) but with the added benefit of fuel economy and simplicity of a thumper, and still able to carry touring gear. Only thing is picking it up .................! Twice! Seems as hard to pick up as the Gs's. Think that is down to age related bodily deterioration as much as anything. It is a tall bike.........lever/fulcrum etc.
But god it's such a good looker any faults pale into insignificance.......gorgeous. And £700 off rrp. Bargain!
Only fly in the ointment was having to have black.........desperately wanted red/white. Don't know why they discontinued the best colour scheme.
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