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I hear the folks that want to have their ultimate machine, because they enjoy the way-out riding more than the travel and seeing stuff.
You mis-read it. I said there are people who enjoy the riding AS MUCH as the travelling. I get huge pleasure out of riding to places and villages that haven't been visited before. You twisted a post that was clearly stating that for some people the riding is as important as the travelling into "the travelling doesnt matter" just so you could make a point.

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But I'd put it to you that maybe you shouldn't be RTWing in that case, instead pick a bunch of ideal riding destinations where you won't get too far from support and medical, and have at it.
See above. I am not interested in riding off road in western europe. Its not why I buy a bike. Its not why I choose a particular model. Its not what floats my boat. I am quite capable of deciding what riding I want to do. Suggesting I shouldn't be RTWing is just an absurd suggestion.

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If you try to push the limits in most 3rd world countries, you stand a very good chance of crashing, and that isn't much fun at all: BTDT, don't want to do it again. Medical & emergency services, bike recovery / repair, trip delays/cancellation, are mostly much worse out here than in the West.
Again, its more than a little bit patronising. I have been adventuring in the third world for 20 years. I know my limits, and I am perfectly capable of choosing my own risk reward balance when it comes to riding.

But its more than patronising, its totally contradictory to why people are here on this site at all. The idea that 'because medical services are worse than in the west we all should plod along on a slow old boat and just be happy with it, because anything else is somehow foolhardy', is the opinion of someone who has given up challenging himself. If that opinion had any validity, then why travel to the third world at all? Its inherently risky. Traffic is more dangerous, emergency services are still worse, even if you potter around on a C90. Better to travel in a Volvo 4WD if we dont like risk. Why take any risk at all? Lets all stay at home in the suburbs and forget this whole adventure concept altogether.

Again, thats fine for you, but not everyone subscribes to one level of risk. There are guys on the site who love going into danger zones. There are others who prefer sticking to main roads in developed countries. Its certainly not for you to proscribe an appropriate amount of risk for HUBB users.

Horizons Unlimited exists to help people find the right risk-reward balance for themselves. Thats what all the information is here for in the end. Its not about eliminating risk, or minimising risk. Its about choosing the level of risk that suits the individuals risk appetite.
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