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Should have a demo 450 by April . Pretty much all the staff want a ride of it Inc me . But apparently I'll be fighting Chris Scott for the keys . First bike for a while that has got people seriously interested.............if its as well equipped as the 800 then it's going to fly out the showroom .
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First bike for a while that has got people seriously interested............
Yes, that'll be me. I'll be keeping a careful eye on this one. Mind you a few other similar offerings in the past have proved to have feet of clay when they actually get into clay (CCM GP450 anyone, or some of the previous Chinese ADV 250's whose names now escape me), so paper specs and publicity pics are only a starting point. It does look interesting though in a way that the Himmy never did (for me anyway).
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Cf moto do some very interesting bikes . I really like the 800 but the leg room is a bit tight for me tbh and the free pannier kit could have a little more capacity tbh .
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Cf moto do some very interesting bikes . I really like the 800 but the leg room is a bit tight for me tbh and the free pannier kit could have a little more capacity tbh .
https://redlinemc.co.uk/cfmoto-800mt-explore-2023/

At nearly £12K, 19” front wheel and lower specs than an African Twin at just £1.3K more, I know where my money would be if I was in the market.
I suspect a very nice, low mileage AT could be had for £11,990.

The 450 will be in a sector on it’s own so fingers crossed
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The AT would make a good second hand buy , providing you can home service it . Major service cost will make u cry.......literally . I can get a minor and major service on my gsa at a main dealer for about the cost of a major AT one . Something to bear in mind if u aren't mechanically inclined . Plus the switchgear is a joke on the AT , I moan about the Gsa being unlit......lord only knows how u use the Honda ones at night in winter gloves . If I had to swap now i would b putting my money into the suzuki 800de........its super roomy , very comfy , OK it doesn't have cruise but I'll live with that for the 7 year warranty !! R u listening Bmw
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The AT would make a good second hand buy , providing you can home service it . Major service cost will make u cry.......literally . I can get a minor and major service on my gsa at a main dealer for about the cost of a major AT one . Something to bear in mind if u aren't mechanically inclined . Plus the switchgear is a joke on the AT , I moan about the Gsa being unlit......lord only knows how u use the Honda ones at night in winter gloves . If I had to swap now i would b putting my money into the suzuki 800de........its super roomy , very comfy , OK it doesn't have cruise but I'll live with that for the 7 year warranty !! R u listening Bmw
Interesting stuff Chris. I won’t be in the market for an AT (even more now ????), I’ll stick with GSs.
I think your right, in that, the CF Moto 800 will be up against the 800DE, 790 KTM and Transalp - all of which, get great reviews, and it’s more expensive!!

Getting back on topic, my wife is beginning to think of scaling down to a lighter bike than her 1200gs LC. Whilst all these middle weights are lighter the GS has such a low COG that it’s easier to handle at low speeds and moving around - even the CB500x felt heavier wheeling it around. Perhaps the KTM but she doesn’t like the look of it (who does? ????). My point is that the difference/advantages aren’t great enough to loose money when she changes.
If the 450 is significantly lighter, it could be the one.

PS. She doesn’t want a single.
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You could well be right ........ have to say if it rides nicely I may jump ship and bank the difference . It'll have to b the grey / yellow paint though
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brand new 500cc twin adventure bike
Brand new 500 twin adventure bike .................................ok............... ....you have to use your imagination for this one !
bullet proof engine . not to heavy , world wide dealers . 300 mile tank range . 100miles to a gallon. low seat height. long service intervals . very nice looking ! . easy to ride and maintain .................................................. .....................................
Honda nx 500 !!!!
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On paper yes but, as we all know, things aren’t that simple.
Tried a Rally Raid and normal CB500x, wanted to love it, but was disappointed.
Just felt clumsy and top heavy to me. Easier to wheel around my 1200gs.
Obviously everyone is different and, for many, it’s a great bike.
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In general I find YouTube bike reviews pretty worthless for me, Big Rock being the exception. They’re either blokey blokes riding down the road spouting, the same old, specs and sound bites or ex enduro racers tearing around an MX track to loud music.
I’ve just seen an excellent review, for real world gravel travel, on the MT450 but I can’t find it again to post a link - if it pops up I’ll post it.

Chris (Gale), a couple of questions, if I may, when will the bike be available in the UK for test rides? And, are there any dealers around the East Midlands / South Yorkshire area - seems difficult to find this information, or is it just me!

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