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...the front mudguard says it all really!
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:confused1: How do you mean?
The 260kg wet weight is what makes it a road tourer. Even without oil and fuel that means its 240 kgs DRY !!! ... ridiculous.
Low guard is totally compatible with off road riding and touring: (almost no Dakar bikes run high mudguards anymore)
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261 kl 
Have we a photo without the pannier hiding the exhaust,,,, It's lkook's a tad on the very large side 
it should be a good big sit up straight road bike....and that's about it, at 261 kl before you put your luggage on it you wont want to be dropping that off road 
ps I use a low guard on my XR400,it is to help cool air get to the motor .!
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at 261 kl before you put your luggage on it you wont want to be dropping that off road |
Yes mate, 260+ kgs!! ... it sure seems designed to be a cheap competitor to the Moto Guzzi Stelvio, Ducati MultiStrada, Honda Varadero type of pure road "adventure style" bike. Yet another huge "adventure" bike that cant really be taken off road ... Like we need another of those on the market. Wish someone would bother making a 150 kg single to do the job.
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ps I use a low guard on my XR400,it is to help cool air get to the motor .!
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I am also changing my X-Challenge to a low fender for the next long ride too - same reason.
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Yes mate, 260+ kgs!! ... it sure seems designed to be a cheap competitor to the Moto Guzzi Stelvio, Ducati MultiStrada, Honda Varadero type of pure road "adventure style" bike. Yet another huge "adventure" bike that cant really be taken off road ... Like we need another of those on the market. Wish someone would bother making a 150 kg single to do the job.
I am also changing my X-Challenge to a low fender for the next long ride too - same reason.
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Are you sure it is a `cheap` alternative? Do we know prices yet?
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I've heard whispers of £12-13k,which would be suicidal !
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I think that at BMW in Germany, they can sleep easy...
They succeeded in building a bike for hard adventure motorcycling (this is what they said) with a 23-lt. only tank, with a radiator exposed to damage risks in the event of falling, with a 19" front tyre instead of 21" as almost everyone expected...
They said it would have been a bike for off-roading that would have brought old glory of the previous Super Téneré back to life, but the result is far from what in general people expected at least on message boards of my Country.
Rumors talk about a price of 15,000 euro (about) here in Italy, but at that price I'd buy a GS1200 ADV...
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Are you sure it is a `cheap` alternative? Do we know prices yet?
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£13,400 plus a few pounds............
And, you can't test ride it,,,,,
And you have to order it sight unseen........
I've been told by the local dealer that they are expecting a model in the showroom May/June
I can't help but think they made a mistake, a stock 1200GS-A is only £10,745 even with the same extras (well they are stock on the Yam) it's still less than the Super Tenere.
I think, come the winter or early spring 2011 we'll see these going for just under the £10k mark, £9999 to get people buying them. Unless they have something up their armholes, such as someone famous taking them somewhere difficult and getting the show on TV... It's worked before.. 
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I actually sorta like it. While it might be too much for single travel it seems to look pretty good for two-up travel. And yes, 260kg is heavy but that's the price one has to pay two-up viability. We've tried several bikes, both big and small, BMWs, Yamahas, KTMs, and ended up with a GS because it seems to be the best bike available for two-up travel.
According to Yamaha it's almost 15.000€ for the so-called "first edition" including panniers.
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Ah come on guys what did you expect from a 1200 cc bike ?
Light weight and simplicity in this day and age ?
Time will tell whether it's a winner or not .
But dedicated long distance touring types like HU are in a minority ,and Yamaha cannot cater to such a small market ,I bet the bike will sell in large numbers just like the GS , VStrom ,Varadero etc and be just as good if not a better road bike.
Personally , I too wished it was more like the KTM 950/990 adv bikes .
[But at least it has a double sided swing arm - no final drive problems hopefully !]
Ah well !
Maybe they'll bring out a 750/800 twin . 
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Has shades of the Varadero look about it. This is NOT a good thing!
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Yet another huge "adventure" bike that cant really be taken off road ... Like we need another of those on the market.
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Hardly surprising, really.
Most members on HUBB are like-minded so it's easy to forget that what we value as qualities in a bike are way down the list for the majority of the potential customers that Yamaha hope to sell their bike to.
Sad but true: the needs of an overlander are of little consequence to the big bike companies: the relatively recent releases of the Tenere, and 800GS are fortunate in that they seem to meet many of our criteria. The DL650 was definately a road-bike that happens to be capable off-road: I doubt Suzuki had overlanding or any serious off-roading in mind: we were lucky!!
I think we need to get used to the idea that every new Dual Sport bike that comes out will not have dirt on the mind, and we will keep having to tweek our bike of choice to meet our needs.
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While it might be too much for single travel it seems to look pretty good for two-up travel. And yes, 260kg is heavy but that's the price one has to pay two-up viability.
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Everything is subjective, including whether or not a bike is suited to two-up travel. I'm sure the guy who rode two-up from the UK to South Africa on a cg125 would have something to say about a 260kg machine being neccessary for two-up travel. All depends on what you want to do and how you want to do it (and how bothered you are about ending up with a sore arse!).
I can't see how it would be a serious rival to the big BMWs, surely the 'Tenere' brand name doesn't pull anywhere near as much weight as 'GS' with the LWR-wannabes?
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I can't see how it would be a serious rival to the big BMWs, surely the 'Tenere' brand name doesn't pull anywhere near as much weight as 'GS' with the LWR-wannabes?
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That will depend upon the marketing and PR guys , maybe they will get Bear Grylls to take Ray Mears in a sidecar RTW with only a helicopter for support  .
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