Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Technical, Bike forums > Which Bike?
Which Bike? Comments and Questions on what is the best bike for YOU, for YOUR trip. Note that we believe that ANY bike will do, so please remember that it's all down to PERSONAL OPINION. Technical Questions for all brands go in their own forum.
Photo by Hendi Kaf, in Cambodia

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Hendi Kaf,
in Cambodia



Like Tree89Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 21 May 2019
Chris Scott's Avatar
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 4,934
My thoughts after a month in Morocco and WS.
Long version. See also this.

Like
• At £4000 new with the stock equipment, it’s a bargain
• Low, 800mm seat – at last a travel bike not limited to tall people
• Enfield build quality stood up to it
• Efi motor pulled smoothly up to nearly 10,000′
• Michelin Anakee Wilds (run tubeless) – great do-it-all tyres
• Low CoG and 21-″ front make it agile on the dirt
• Rear YSS shock
• Yes it’s 190kg, but road and trail, it carries it well
• Subframe easily sturdy enough for load carrying
• Economy went up and up: averaged 78 mpg (65 US; 27.6kpl; 3.62L/100k)
• 400km range from the 15-litre tank – about 250 miles

Like less
• Weak front brake on the road (fitting sintered pads is a fix)
• As a result, front ABS is a bit docile
• Stock seat foam way too mushy for my bulk
Tubliss core failed on the front; replaced with inner tube
• Centre stand hangs low – but can be raised
• Valves need checking every 3000 miles (according to manual)
• Small digit dash data hard to read at a glance
• Compass always wrong
• Head bearings went notchy at 4000 miles, despite regressing @ 1200
Attached Thumbnails
Royal Enfield Himalayan-him4k-9.jpg  


Last edited by Chris Scott; 29 Jun 2019 at 10:46.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 22 May 2019
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 14
Great info Chris, thanks. I'd be interested to hear where you feel the CRF falls short in comparison to the Him. Is it mainly that the Him is a better rounded and equipped package out of the box?
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 22 May 2019
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Worthington Mn USA
Posts: 185
Himalayan

Well just rode this bike 1300 miles in two weeks in Bhutan and the bike is solid. I have ridden British Royal Enfield in India before for month two up and this is better for single riding. I liked the bullet for two up and as you know neither is fast or suited for fast. In Bhutan the national speed limit is 60 km and we hardly ever got going that fast. The bike starts to become unstable about 70 km. But below that is fun to ride.
__________________
Larry Davis
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 23 May 2019
Chris Scott's Avatar
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 4,934
Quote:
... Is it mainly that the Him is a better rounded and equipped package out of the box?
Yes that, plus the unhurried feel of the engine and general layout makes it all more satisfying to ride.

(Can't say mine ever felt unstable at up to 110kph; sounds like something may have been loose or worn)
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 29 Jun 2019
Chris Scott's Avatar
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 4,934
Read all about it in this month's Bike mag.
Attached Thumbnails
Royal Enfield Himalayan-himbikespread.jpg  

Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 2 Jul 2019
stuxtttr's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Lutterworth,Midlands, UK
Posts: 574
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
Read all about it in this month's Bike mag.
Oh think i’ll Treat myself for my upcoming holiday read. The more I read about the himalaya the more I think it will be my next bike. Especially given that any of its short comings can be fixed, replaced and simplified over time.

I love how FUEL turned one into an 80’s style Dakar bike for very little cost involvement and simplified the dash etc defiantly something that any of us would be capable of.

I have ridden many miles on my TTR250 and have only ever wished for more power in soft sand (how often do we actually ride in soft sand?) I’ve always found it can more than keep pace on motorways and have an absolute blast through tight bends yes on the straights it gets hammered by sports bikes but they cant ride across rivers and beaches!
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 11 Jul 2019
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: cape Town
Posts: 2
RE Himalayan First Ride - I'm sold!

Hi guys. I've just had a 1 hour test ride on a new Euro 4 Himalayan (first one in South Africa). It only had ~800kms on clock so not fully loosened-up. Normally I ride an F650GS (my sewing machine) and find it a pig offroad but great for commuting and long fast rides. Well the Hima surprised me in so many ways. Smooth suspension both on tar and gravel, significantly lighter feel - much more than the supposed weight difference, fast enough for freeway cruising (70mph), relatively quiet, easy start and comfortable. What a pleasure to select first gear easily and quietly too. In fact as soon as I got onto my sewing machine immediately after the ride, I was sold on the Hima.
Yes the seat needs to be 2cm higher, bar raisers needed, wider pegs preferred, shorter sidestand with a larger foot for gravel and the temp gauge needs moving (although the compass was about right the whole time). Eventually I’ll get the Powertune piggyback with maps and a larger drive sprocket but for now its OK
Have I bought one? No. They are not accepted by the authorities as a properly homologated bike (?!?) so there’s no price yet. But soon, very soon, I shall rid myself of the pig. Cheers, ChrisD
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 10 Sep 2019
Gold Member
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Al Khor, Qatar
Posts: 51
Rear brake caliper failure....

My Himalayan has only covered 5000 miles now. And while rolling back the brake clunked... I did not realise until a few mins later I was slowly rolling into a petrol station that the rear brake was nor functioning.
I attach a few pix.
It will be a warranty job and I feel lucky that I was moving so slowly!
Not too sure but think it's a rare event for a caliper casting to simply break off at the pins that it floats on. I really hope so.
Other wise it has been a tough little machine. Useless compass of course and the gear change indicator has already broken.
I wish the petrol tank was just a bit bigger.Royal Enfield Himalayan-1.jpg

Royal Enfield Himalayan-2.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 10 Sep 2019
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Belper, uk, EUROPE
Posts: 563
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElChico View Post
My Himalayan has only covered 5000 miles now. And while rolling back the brake clunked... I did not realise until a few mins later I was slowly rolling into a petrol station that the rear brake was nor functioning.
I attach a few pix.
It will be a warranty job and I feel lucky that I was moving so slowly!
Not too sure but think it's a rare event for a caliper casting to simply break off at the pins that it floats on. I really hope so.
Other wise it has been a tough little machine. Useless compass of course and the gear change indicator has already broken.
I wish the petrol tank was just a bit bigger.
Bybre are the Brembo group's cheaper brand if I remember correctly.

Hopefully, when they drop the 650 twin engine in they will also drop on a 22 litre tank to give a good range.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 3 Oct 2019
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Scottish but now in just touring.
Posts: 35
My Himalayan Experience So Far

I bought the bike , a 2018 BS4 UK model about 16 months old with 2,300 miles on the clock on 1st of August this year with the intention of using it on an extended RTW trip during which I intend to keep it as standard as possible and to run it as cheaply as possible.

I will be doing all my own servicing and repairs (except welding etc.) and apart from consumables (oil, filters, chain, brake pads etc.) I only intend to replace parts as they fail or wear out.

So far this it what I have done to and found out about the bike.

I examined the head bearings at about 3,000 miles and found them to be in need of cleaning and re-greasing. Fitted a Scotoiler to help maximise chain life and checked the valve clearances but no adjustment was needed.

Rode the bike to Spain and at about 5,300 miles I took apart and re-greased the rear suspension and swinging arm bushes. Rode the bike from Spain to Poland where I am currently, and I have now done 7,700 and have had no issues with suspension.

I changed the oil and filter at 3,000 miles and the oil again at 5,300. I am using 20W50 instead of the recommended 15W50 which is extremely hard to find on the road.

I intend to change the oil as close to every 3,000 miles as possible and the filter as close to every 6,000 miles as possible.

Fuel consumption is always about 80mpg but crossing the Alps on slow winding climbs it rose to over 97 mpg on one tankfull.

On one day circumstances forced me to ride for over 500 miles on Spanish motorways, it sat easily at 70-75 mph fully loaded all day but sounded more comfortable at 65 mph.

Fully loaded the bike struggles on long uphill climbs and sometimes requires a change down to 4th gear but on the tight Alpine passes this was never a problem.

I am 5'10" (179cm) and 13st (85kg) and standard the riding position if fine for me. The only thing that I don't like is the soft seat, especially if you need to do more than 300 miles per day.

Another thing that i found surprising was the rear tyre life. The standard Pirelli MT is looking quite squared and tread depth in the middle is now close to the wear indicators.

I find this quite shocking for a bike that only delivers 24 BHP. My previous bike, a ZZR1200 with 165 BHP could get 7,000 on a rear before it reached this stage.

The only other problem that I have is a slight weep from the rocker cover gasket that only started after 7,000 miles.

As far as i am concerned, to date, I am happy with the bike and i think that it will perform the task that i have chosen it to do, however, time will tell me if i was correct or otherwise.

I forgot to mention that when I did the head bearings I removed the entire EVAP system and connected my Scotoiler to the now redundant vacuum take off on the throttle body.

Oh and I know that this makes me sound like a Luddite but no GPS for me, I actually like using paper maps.
Attached Thumbnails
Royal Enfield Himalayan-dsc_0046.jpg  


Last edited by Madbiker; 6 Oct 2019 at 22:08.
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 3 Oct 2019
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: france
Posts: 115
time ot go

hi guys
Next ride will be towards Almaty with 2 himmies . Why ?
I had tested it to Bulgaria, tracks ( easy) included.
Few things to change
A Lot of serious riders on iti already ; example : Noraly back from India , traveller all across Middle Africa, lots in USA.
Personal matters : the first bike in 39 years feeling my former Xt with a better suspension , starter and simple . Parts in Asia, including Russia

very cheap for the concern
Not as glamour than the T7, not as good offraod than the 790 , worthy than 250' and heavier for sure , lot of steal spares easy to fis : pedals for example .
Made for rough conditions
i call it ;25 GS
__________________
"In a car you're always in a compartment, and because you're used to it you don't realize that through that car window everything you see is just more TV." R. Pirsig
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 5 Oct 2019
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA
Posts: 238
It boggles my mind that, after 10 years of hydraulic valves on the Bullet, they reverted to adjustable valves with short intervals. Who wants to be constantly checking valve clearances on a RTW journey?
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 5 Oct 2019
Chris Scott's Avatar
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 4,934
Didn't know Bullets has hydraulic tappets (not even sure what it means ;-) but as the miles roll on I've heard RTW Him riders can typically leave checks to 10,000km which is not so bad. Oil change maybe more frequently.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 19 Nov 2019
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: france
Posts: 115
Prep

Hi guys
Planning the very route now , maybe Russia First .
for various reasons .
E07 tyres, new chain /sprockets Xring ; 13000 on the clock
20000 km ride
Attached Thumbnails
Royal Enfield Himalayan-d-pneus.jpg  

Royal Enfield Himalayan-img_20190513_153105.jpg  

Royal Enfield Himalayan-trip_2020_map_idea_base_wl4.jpg  

__________________
"In a car you're always in a compartment, and because you're used to it you don't realize that through that car window everything you see is just more TV." R. Pirsig
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 9 Dec 2019
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Portugal permanent, Sweden during summer
Posts: 480
Plus from my experiences

* Very easy to repair and maintain. (Simple tools and basic skills)
* Robust. => Can handle a lot without severe damage

/I have been riding Himalayan in Nepal.
Early model, before introduced in EU.
The only problem was charging system.
But generator replaced in the parking lot outside the hotel

It did was a very good bike for that type of ride. Slow riding on bad roads.
No highways, no Enduro style riding. Just driving gravel roads that were really bad at some times. I should not chose another bike for that type of riding.
Reply With Quote
Reply


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/which-bike/royal-enfield-himalayan-96018
Posted By For Type Date
Royal Enfield Himalayan This thread Refback 19 Sep 2020 14:08

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
From India to Europe overland on a Royal Enfield - The 101 introduction leooo TRAVEL Hints and Tips 2 8 Mar 2020 10:05
Exactly How Purpose Built Is The Royal Enfield Himalayan? deelip The HUBB PUB 26 15 Dec 2017 11:50
Royal Enfield Pathetic Part Quality Saga deelip The HUBB PUB 16 29 Jul 2017 13:11
Royal Enfield Himalayan Crank Nut Fix deelip The HUBB PUB 1 8 Jul 2017 11:54
The Royal Enfield Himalayan – First Impressions deelip Which Bike? 21 8 Jan 2017 08:27

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

25 years of HU Events
Be sure to join us for this huge milestone!

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

Virginia: April 24-27
Queensland is back! May 2-5
Ecuador June 13-15
Germany Summer: May 29-June 1
CanWest: July 10-13
Switzerland: Date TBC
Ecuador: Date TBC
Romania: Date TBC
Austria: Sept. 11-14
California: September 18-21
France: September 19-21
Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:50.