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Not sure about where you live but, here in the UK, the NX has non-regular tyre sizes so not easy to find and more expensive than standard when you do.

It’s a great bike though, light with a super smooth engine. Very small, which is a plus for some but the reason I sold.
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you have all missed the best................. Yamaha wr 250r
930 mm seat height.
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you have all missed the best................. Yamaha wr 250r
Too tall, I suspect.
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Here you go: mototehnika.ee - Kawasaki KX 250 XC Enduro

2021 Kawasaki KX 250 XC. Street-legal. 21" front, 18" rear. 109 kg with a tank of fuel.

People who have been complaining about no lightweight adventure bikes - put your money where your mouth is.
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6 litre fuel tank and launch control: 2 essentials for a good adventure bike LOL
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Here you go: mototehnika.ee - Kawasaki KX 250 XC Enduro

2021 Kawasaki KX 250 XC. Street-legal. 21" front, 18" rear. 109 kg with a tank of fuel.

People who have been complaining about no lightweight adventure bikes - put your money where your mouth is.
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6 litre fuel tank and launch control: 2 essentials for a good adventure bike LOL
To be fair at 109kg fuelled up and probably 104kg empty it isn’t going to be a hard push to the next fuel stop.
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I've got an idea, take out the engine and 6 kg of petrol, fit alternative power, say a, leg driven crank and.....

I looked at this last winter and eventually bought a CB500X. Comments would be:

Off road weight matters but so does seat height. I'm developing a theory 1kg and 1mm of seat height each cause the same loss of performance.

Tyre choice is more critical still. The CB500X on the horrible OE tyres was a nightmare on K60's its a survivor on muddy/stoney lanes.

The "cruise at 60" plan hard to quantify. I used to cruise my 500 Bullet at 70, it made noises that only the howling from mechanically sympathetic pensioners at the REOC could drown out. The CB500x will cruise at 80 but the aerodynamics and increased fuel consumption negate the distance covered. The CB500F will cruise at 90 all day. I'd want to know owners miles per day not spec sheet mph.

I think I'd have been equally happy with the Himalayan. The CRF is too tall for me.

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My idea is that you want to spend as little money as possible, but you want a manufacturer to invest in building this bike for you.

Anyway, the answer is CRF250L. 145kg. Modify the tank if it's not enough (but I bet it's enough in the real world - carry a rotopax for anxiety).
Seat higth 875 mm.
OK for having fun in the woods.
But I would not travel on that,
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Seat higth 875 mm.
OK for having fun in the woods.
But I would not travel on that,
Bike building is expensive, even if you do it yourself, plus then it’s time consuming too.
Lowered CRF250l would be my choice or one of the last Serrows.
I think Honda have a bigger footprint around the world for spares (except, possibly, Africa where Yamaha are very popular due to Dakar success - so I’ve read somewhere) either of these, nearly new, would last for tens of thousands of miles without needing repairs - both are well proven.

It’s certainly a nice place to be, planning a trip and trying to decide what bike. I’m at that stage myself, although the trip will not be till 2023. My conundrum slightly differs to yours in that I’m tall and need a big bike but don’t want weight.

Happy planning
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930 mm seat height.
Useless
Far from useless .................. as long as you can get one foot down. thats all you need ! I have seen so so many people at bike shows etc ,saying i carnt get both feet flat on the floor its a joke !
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Far from useless .................. as long as you can get one foot down. thats all you need ! I have seen so so many people at bike shows etc ,saying i carnt get both feet flat on the floor its a joke !
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No, probably not useless if you've got 34"+ (or the equivalent in metric) legs - which I guess you have if you're not finding that height causing issues. I, much to my annoyance, don't and bitter experience has taught me that while sliding around on the seat and getting one foot down is fine short term, on a long trip you eventually come to hate the bike with a vengeance. You develop a fear of getting on the bike and start looking for kerbs, bricks, stones etc to stop next to. The memory of trying to get back onto a fully laden bike parked on a particular off camber rain and oil covered forecourt stays with me to this day.

Bottom line - I'll ride high seat stuff if I 'have' to (and I still have two bikes with 900mm+ seat heights) but short legs and high seats do not make comfortable travelling companions.
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Far from useless .................. as long as you can get one foot down. thats all you need ! I have seen so so many people at bike shows etc ,saying i carnt get both feet flat on the floor its a joke !
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It’s not a joke - it’s their life. Not everyone is a skilled rider that has the confidence or skill to ride a tall bike. That doesn’t mean that they don’t have the right to ride a motorcycle and it certainly doesn’t make them an object of laughter.
I find gentle encouragement with any aspect in life is a great thing to give and receive.
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Honda NX 400

In other parts of the world, small bikes are popular.
Roads are worse, traffic is heavier...

People want something small, robust, easy to maintain.....
And that creats a market. And local production.
In Europe, you need to have a big bike to be a man.
And there is no market for small bikes.

(Myself, I have spent most of my life on GSX1100 and GSX-R1100. And my touring bike is a GTR 1400.
So I am no exception)

HD Sportster 900/120 0cc is a moped for girls.
Yamaha 535 something a beginer can use for a short time.
A 750-800 cc bike in general (GS 750, VN 800...) are also entry model.
To learn driving and get your license before you get a "real" bike.

But we will see if things change. The major companies are launching 300 cc "Adventyre bikes"

Honda in Brazil produces several interesting bikes.
E.g The Cargo.
The "Pizza delivery bike" that "Old Man" drove from Mexico to Ushaia and than to New York.( 125 cc verdion)


And since I live in Portugal now, I have found one of them here.
Due to the relation Brazil- Portugal.
It is the Honda NX4, NX400, Falcon.
It was sold in Brasil, some other SA countries and Portugal !
Produced from 1999-2008.
(And a newer version 2012-2014)

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Falcon_NX4



It ticks almost all boxes in my wish list.
https://www.motonline.com.br/guia-de...da/nx-4-falcon

Good used ones are for sale around 2 500 Euro.

https://www.olx.pt/anuncio/honda-nx-...tml#31103e59a3

When/if this period of "state of emergency" and restictions in movement ends. I will try to get my hands on one of these.
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isnt the falcon based on the old xr400 engine ?
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Small bikes are popular in Europe too - 5 out of the top 10 selling bikes in Europe are below 300cc.
Bikers criticising bikers, once again, does our small sub section of society no good.
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