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Ultralight 'adv' bikes

from 57kg / 600km

Just the job for hardcore Siberia or Darien, I reckon.

FX Bikes Mountain Moto World’s Lightest Motorcycles 125lb 125cc 125mpg

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Haha. I was toying a while back with the idea of sticking a Cub pattern engine into a custom chassis with proper off-road bike levels of travel and ground clearance as a minimalist overland bike. Looks like someone did more than just toy with it
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Trials?

Looking at the pictures, I am reminded of specialist trials bikes, but with a higher seat.

Sherco, sherpa et al, come to mind but they carry nothing but a rider and a few spares/tools.
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It reminds me a lot of the, sadly never made, Derbi DH 2.0, although the Derbi is even more bicycle-like and at 88lbs for a 100cc even lighter.



I notice on the FX website it says:

If you have serious expedition experience (not necessarily on motorcycles) and you have some adventure ideas for an FX Expedition, you can apply for factory sponsorship.

Is anyone tempted? Sadly I can't say I've got serious experience otherwise I'd apply. Chris do you fancy pairing up on some sort of Apprentice style expedition? It might have legs.

One thing you'd have to do is pack very light, and it strikes me that motorcycling with all it's bulky clobber makes that difficult. These two seem more of the credit card and toothbrush style of touring.

Perhaps it's worthwhile flinging the Sachs Maddass into the mix? Not quite as rugged looking, but still not a scooter for those who just can't bring themselves to buy a C90.



I reckon there's a lot to be said for a super-light, small travel bike especially of you're thinking of shipping it rather than riding all the way there. The Derbi in particular could probably be stripped down and packed into a mountain bike flight case and taken on a plane as excess baggage.
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This one weighs in at 85kg and there are luggage racks available as options. They all need bigger fuel capacity though.

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Some people can manage with less than others.
This is a mate in Morocco earlier this year, including tent and s-bag.


(He sent me the fxb link)

Realistically I think durability is an important factor on the long road and putting a motor in what looks like a chunky downhill MTB frame may not be compatible with someone of my weight + gear. All the chassis bearings and other running gear would get hard pressed, IMO.

Better suited, like I suggested, for specific hardcore 'stunts' where being able to pick up your moto (or float it on a packraft) is useful.

I did like the look of the Honda Zoomer (below) when it came out - though MadAss looks much better. Only a moped of course and 87 kg, but that seat frame could easily be raised to make room for more stuff - same on the Sachs. And in the merely lightweight category there is the Ryoku (concept only) + ag bikes, postie bikes and C90 step thrus.

I'd take that factory sponsorship offer with a pinch of salt. All they are going to do is give you a bike and expect the earth.

What is that Magnon?

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