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**indu** · #16 12 May 2008

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Originally Posted by kbikey

They both own several bikes and though they get glazed looks in their eyes when speaking of home, they stay and enjoy the afordable life they have here.
I know not everyone wants to live in the U.S.A. and there's not room for ereryone anyway ,but if you are smothered by the economics and can get away ,this is an option.

I don't want to turn this thread into something political, but with regards to affordable life, U.S.of A. is probably one of the last options. If you get sick they won't treat you unless a) you have paid heaps in insurance, or b) you pay out of pocket. And we're talking a gazillion dollars for a mere blood sample... I think it's better to pay overprice for bikes and live somewhere else and visit the US from time to time instead...

**peter-denmark** · #17 12 May 2008

Pheeww, lots of replies. Thank you guys!

OK, well I found a BMW R 65 / 5 on motoscout 24 which is only 1700E. This seems too cheap maybe as the only other one I found is around 4000E.

If I was to rebuild an Enfield with only newer parts, aside from the frame, it would have a higher taxation I belive, but not as much as if it had a new frame. Maybe an option, but could also end up as a another cardboard case project on ebay...

Guzzis are very nice, but finding a cheap one (that works) is going to be really hard I think.

MZ are an option and these can actually be had pretty cheap in Denmark.

Even the old Nimbus'es go for 6,000+ euro. Too many people who restore them and sell them so buying one an doing it yourself is not really an option.

Triumps and other brits are also an option, but I know very little about these bikes as they are not from my generation (little kid here was born in 1981) and the cheap ones will probably come in a cardbox and perhaps leave in it again.

running out of battery on my laptop, will post more later

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Hans: his idea is good enough so lets not make the thread political. We all know the ups and down of the US so please keep personal opinions out.

About moving to the states:
Man that is one amazing bike country! So many cheap bikes and so much space to use them on. Lots of friendsly people. Yes I would be tempted to move there and have even thought about it before.
BUT as welcoming as people may be, homeland security, american politics and the lack of familiy and friends are things that keep me based in europe. I would love to move there for a year of two, but that is damn difficult these days...

**jkrijt** · #18 12 May 2008

As far as I know there is no official R65/5.
It may be an R60/5 with a R65 engine but in that case be sure the work is done right and the papers are OK.
Non matching numbers can give you big problems at foreign borders.

**indu** · #19 12 May 2008

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Originally Posted by peter-denmark

Hans: his idea is good enough so lets not make the thread political. We all know the ups and down of the US so please keep personal opinions out.

Will do. Only these were not personal opinions, just facts about the health care system. But I get your drift. Sorry.

**peter-denmark** · #20 12 May 2008

no problem man...

About the older hondas. I think the best ones are in the americas, we dont have a lot of the really cool ones over here from that period.
Spare parts may be a problem for these older japs someone mentioned.

hmm

well the old BMW r 60 / 5 are nice machines for sure. I guess you could even bastardize it for offroad in the same way as the guzzi? some higher front forks and springs?

the guzzis are beauties, but I simply dont think they come in my pricerange.

unless I am looking for a cardboard box project the brit bikes seem to be out of price range. Also the extra hassel of headlights and speedo makes it less attractive. If I lived lon the isles I would definatly go for one though.

**xr200** · #21 12 May 2008

Try a google serch of "sheck BMW" for some inspiration on old BMW dirt bikes.
BMW entered the ISDT along time before they officially sold the G/S range.

There are lots of old modified BMW bikes like this in Germany, they are easy to work on.

**peter-denmark** · #22 12 May 2008

hmm I don't got too many results on "sheck bmw" but maybe I just need to be more persistent.

I found this BMW here MotoScout24 - Europas groÃŸe MotorradbÃ¶rse

3000E and then it will be a little less than 1000E to put plates on it Denmark.

beautyfull bike. if it can take the beating I am going to give it it would be perfect.

I beat my bikes alot, how would the beemer take it? would it be unfair to put such a nice old lady in the hands of me?

hmm.

Now I just need to get my KLR sold here in SA. Then I can fly straight to Germany and pick up the beemer.

What a silly idea. I really like it.

**Donmanolo** · #23 12 May 2008

Not in Italy they're not...!

http://www.moto.it/epoca/consulta03.asp?EID=1590433

Not really much good off road, and will probably need some TLC, but it's just to give you an idea.

Take a look on the same website under "ricerca avanzata" or also on : Annunci moto usate e accessori usato gratis- Vendita Moto usate

There are always some pre 1973 models within your price range, and plenty of bargains for some slightly more recent ones, there's a job lot of 4 working ex police V65s going right now, for 1500€ the lot!

The export procedure from down here is quite simple, PM me if I can be of help.

Ciao,

Antonio.

**peter-denmark** · #24 12 May 2008

Hi Giacomo.

the best bargains are after 1973 and then the registration fee is too high.

even for the ones from 1970 it is around 2000E to get it registered in denmark. Dont know why they are so much more expensive.

maybe I will just have to get an MZ. just such a small bike for a big guy like me (2m tall)

**baswacky** · #25 12 May 2008

So, now I know why my cousin in Fredensborg rides an old triumph!

baswacky.

**peter-denmark** · #26 12 May 2008

yes that could be why (-:

**oldbmw** · #27 13 May 2008

Why not import a rough therefore very cheap old enfield. then after you have had it registered and taxed rebuild it. No taxes to pay on the rebuild value, and by doing it yourself will be cheaper, plus you will be able to fix anythingthat might go wrong with it.

**peter-denmark** · #28 13 May 2008

several reason why this is not an option.

first of all, the danish tax system forsees this therefore you have to have it re-evaluated if you perform different kinds of rebuilds. They will taxate you accordingly. The thing is also that it has to pass a roadworthyness check BEFORE its value is decided.

Otherwise everyone would be doing it...

the next thing is that I don't really have the time or room for a project like that. I dont have a workshop because my life has been kinda nomadic for the last three years (travel-work-travel-work) and it probably will be for at least three more.

My last option is to cheat and buy a bike in germany and have it registered there with the help of a german (maybe mr. aleman is up for it) then hide it somewhere until I am ready to go on my next trip.

I am looking for a travelbike anyways, not a daily commuter.

Maybe a nifty little gs 100 dakar mmm. Always wanted a bike that would fit my long legs.