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What should someone do if they run out of fuel while being chased by a dog in Morocco?
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Run out of fuel while being chased by a dog ?

The Mad Dog - Handgun Mount!

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What should someone do if they run out of fuel while being chased by a dog in Morocco?
be a hero, I thought you'd know this.
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I suppose this would work if the bike had stalled (no fuel etc): You'd then have your right hand free to access said accessory. Not so good while un-stalled as you couldn't take your right hand off the throttle.

Or, I suppose, you could fit cruise control onto the bike allowing hands free riding.

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I was going to ask if the dog was a vegan, but have now thought better of this

I imagine that moving the throttle to the left to allow use of the pistol like Indian marketed in the days of black and white film will somewhat invalidate ones warranty and get lawyers really ready for a fight?

I wonder what they'd put on a gun recall? "May fail to cause sudden death..."?



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But the fact is ... and BMW freely admit it ... only about 10% of GS customers will ever ride their GS beyond it's limits off road ... and most will stay on the road.
The figure I have seen was 2% ... BMWs research is only 2% of GS owners ride their bike off road
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I was going to ask if the dog was a vegan, but have now thought better of this
Agghhh dont mention the vegan topic Andy. we dont want any more posts deleted do we

But .. of course the dog wasnt a vegan or it wouldnt have been chsing the meat from the leg of an overland motorcycle traveler... I google vegan dog and they do actually exist!
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Oh ..and in case you are wondering...the breed of the veagan dog is ........ a 'Collie'
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BMW burned my house

Hi everyone.

First of all I would like to let you know that English is my other language so I will probably make some grammar or punctuation mistakes.


I would like add few words about the topic of quality of current German automotive industry. As you aware for many years, it was portrayed as a one of the most safe and reliable cars/motorcycles in the world. As it turns out, not only Mercedes has issues with quality and safety. It happened to me and as well as several thousand people around the globe which BMW motorcycles catching fire/combust unexpectedly. Here is the link to the other interesting information on this (including pictures of my fire as well)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...kk?usp=sharing

So...

Before beginning of 2015's motorcycle season. I started looking for some information about my motorbike BMW R1200ST which I really love it. I bought this motorbike new from local BMW garage. It was serviced regularly according to service manual. I was quite surprised when I found some information about the serious technical defects, that could cause injury or even a death of users.

These are some defects:

1. Faulty front ABS sensor resulting in self-locking front wheel while riding (No:1 Danger!)

2. Faulty/dodgy fixing of rear wheel (defective element of collar mounting wheel, resulting in losing/ be ringing of the hook whilst driving (Another nightmare!!!)

3. The malfunction of fuel pump sealing? Resulting in a loss of fuel and self ignition while is moving or even stationary.

Each of these defects has been widely documented on the Internet, because there were some fatal accidents. In the USA and Canada government based Road Safety institution dealt with these problems, which forced BMW to service/repair and pay compensations to the owners/victims of these motorcycles. It is worthy to say that BMW was forced to do futher steps as they didn't feel guiltily about following problems.

Here is the link to the NHTSA investigation of these cases:
https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls?nhtsaId=13V617000

In the end, they failed to sweep the problem under the carpet. In order to sort this problems out, BMW Europe recalled the owners of motorbikes to apparently fix those problems. Poland was also included in this recall. At the beginning of June 2015. I sent an letter to my local BMW dealer ( BMW Auto Fus Ostrobramska Street, Warsaw) enquiring about recall/fires etc. Their response was positive inviting me to leave my motorbike in order to repair defects. In the last week of June 2015 the repair was carried out/ done so I was not bother/worried anymore.

Two weeks later on 13th of July 2015, after the ride I put motorbike in the garage. I left my house to go to Warsaw Old Town. After an hour I received an call from my neighbors telling me that my house in on fire.

There was a spontaneous combustion of my BMW R1200ST motorcycle. As a result of fire my garage and car burnt (sporty Mercedes). The house is adjacent to the garage so it started catching fire luckily stopping at gutters. I would like to say big thank you to all of my neighbors that they responded so quickly. Luckily the Fire Station is located only 2kms (1.2miles) from my property. The total loss is approximately 600.000zl (150k US dollars of 120k GBP)

Due to the extent of the damage on second day the prosecutor's office/court sent investigation team with firefighting experts to conduct the investigation. PROSECUTORS/INVESTIGATION TEAM CLEARLY STATED THAT CAUSE OF THE FIRE WAS BMW MOTOCYCLE.

I peacefully offered BMW reconciliation by paying me the settlement and compensation for the losses which I lost during fire.

BMW decided to sent two technicians from Germany to do own investigation. After 3 hours of inspection of wreckage they issued the statement which states that they do not feel guilty.

In my opinion the inspection was carried out in poor standards. BMW technician had no equipment with themselves (I video recorded inspection) I think they only came to see if I have any evidences on them and I will be able to use against them in court.

Due to the alleged fault of BMW motorbike, my insurer does not want to pay any compensation. So I stuck in middle of nowhere.

I can only do court proceedings.
Wish me luck.
Thanks for reading.
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PS: If you have any suggestions or help regarding this issue could you please send me an email bambusowydomek@gmail.com Thanks in advance.
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Damn, so many years bmw endanger riders and do nothing to make it right it's just a shame. Time people realize what are they risking buying beamers, yet somehow adventure market is still dominated by GS models
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I think BMW's bright adventure Star has faded some in the last 5 years. KTM is now THE major player in the Adventure market ... and getting stronger. BMW are certainly still BIG ... and many thousands of riders still ride GS's all over the world. But their dominance is not quite what it once was.

All that said, BMW have a LONG history of technical problems going back to at least the 1980's, which is where my experience with BMW started. I also was good friends with both mechanics and BMW dealership owners.

Their stories are incredible. Actually, BMW have improved in their response to warranty claims and are now approving more pay outs than in years past. Also, for YEARS BMW would routinely DENY faults with their bikes. NOW ... they sometimes do admit to problems and take responsibility and actually FIX the problems ... sometimes ... no always. Overall, a much better bike than previous.

The case above is a tough one ... and will take a good lawyer and a favorable judge to decide the whole thing in court. In the end I hope the guy can WIN and get the payout he deserves.

But of course if it gets anywhere near going to court ... BMW will quickly settle the matter with a Cash Payment. It's just how this business works.

But if too many cases come before our NHTSA, it may send up red flags which could set off investigations and more lawsuits. But BMW will be well defended, having all the money in the world (mostly (as always) from the Car division)

In decades past BMW motorcycle division was 100% supported by the Car division and the MC division ran at a loss for DECADES. It wasn't until around 2000 that the Motorcycle division finally, clearly paid it's own way with no help from the Car division. This due to big surge in R1150GS and R1200GS sales from about 2000 onward.

Long Way Round really gave BMW a huge boost, especially in UK sales.

Just so as not to pick on BMW alone, many (all?) other companies have had these sort of disastrous law suits happen. NONE are perfect and ALL have screwed customers at one time or another.

But, just in my experience, I guess-ti-mate that BMW tend to have MORE problems and more re-calls with faulty equipment and systems than other OEM's.

Some would argue the reason is because BMW are pushing forward with new, high tech systems first. They were the first to widely offer ABS brakes across their whole range of bikes. Now, they offer ESA and new, sophisticated ABS systems. Pioneers.

Risks taken can bring disasters. The Japanese are far more risk averse and tend to follow at a safe distance ... and also do FAR more testing of new, high tech systems before putting it out to the public. And as a result, have fewer warranty claims, fewer law suits, happier customers ... and make MORE MONEY.
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Just so as not to pick on BMW alone, many (all?) other companies have had these sort of disastrous law suits happen. NONE are perfect and ALL have screwed customers at one time or another.
that's true, but as far I could research none of other companies have been involved in so many incidents where riders were injured or killed because of faulty design or malfunction of their motorcycle. In fact I couldn't find any other motorcycle brand then bmw...

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maybe people finally woke up:
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BMW Group reported its May 2016 and year-to-date sales figures for the U.S., and the news is grim for the first five months of the year.

In May 2016, 1,221 BMW motorcycles were sold in the USA, a 40% drop from the 2,034 sold in May 2015. This bucks trends seen in worldwide sales in March (up 19.6% over March 2015) and April (up 1.4%).
http://www.bmwmoa.org/news/292002/BM...own-in-USA.htm

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