to Robbert:
when i read Mollydogs thread i have also noticed the oil issue. i think the main idea is changing the oil frequently and try to keep it clean. when the oil gets dirty it gets also dense and it is hard to cool down a dense oil.

about the army ktm, look quite and ready to go, but i know just a little thing about ktm and did not see much long distance traveler with ktm. Also i cannot import it here as the import tax would be really high.

probably it should be better if you stick dr or xt.

to others:
i had bmw in the UK and it caused me a lot trouble. expensive and hard to find parts in Greece, Italy (the rear shoch in Verona) and in Turkiye.

here in Turkiye the famous bikes are honda transalp, suzuki dl650 and gs1xxx series. they dont even import suzuki dr, kawasaki klr and honda xr. i have found some second hand dr (2004 make 7500km), klr and xt. I think i am gonna drop the KLR as well. Prices are close to each other (6000 USD for 2004 dr, more expensive then brand new US retail price).

my only concern about the DR is the cooling system. How it is gonna behave in Delhi while it is >40 degree celcius in the city traffic or in Sahara where the temperature differance is quite extreme between day and night..

I can also switch to XT. Not sure yet

Thanks for your helps..

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Interesting how bike availability varies so much between countries! You have a good choice of twins then!

There are threads in here about air cooled bikes running in hot conditions, really hot conditions under extended engine loading, so they would be worth reading - from memory, most comment says that the "air coolers" perform OK, but please check for yourself!!

How about the XT660R? - you have not mentioned it, but it is the obvious water cooled successor to the XT600 and the likely way forward. along with the new XT660Z, when the old bikes fall apart )

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Dave

people loves twin here couse of better speed, less vibration and better lookin (fairing!!)

i would something like with carb and not with injection. The one with the carbs are easier to repair and parts are widely available. It is why I am thinking of XT600 and not XT660 or any bike with carbs. Liquid cooling... ummm.. Better for engine maybe but again makes the engine complicated. Also XT660 is a bit pricy then xt600

thanks..

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ozhan u.
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You can't go wrong with the venerable - Yamaha XT600E

The most widely used RTW adventure bike on earth and probably your best bet...



Ride carefully & Stay safe.

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Triumph Bonneville 800 (2004), Yamaha XT600E (1999), Honda XBR500 (1986).

First part:
My local BMW dealership would not agree (and I don't know, but that is because I don't care).

Second part:
Sounds like an ad for Carlsberg.

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Dave

You're right, probably....

I maybe a "teensy weensy" bit biased though - seeing that I actually own one myself!

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Triumph Bonneville 800 (2004), Yamaha XT600E (1999), Honda XBR500 (1986).

hi again!

thanks for the comments and infos.

however, i have read the following thread 3 times today:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...t=suzuki+dr650

and then i have start take a seriously look for XT600 as well. the only problem with xt is that it is no more on sale as brand new.

i think i have to read more

i am still open to any advice and info..

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ozhan u.
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Well, give it time and it will wear off.

XBRs have a good sounding exhaust however.


Ozhanu,
You set the date in your first post: 2003 = about the last production of the XT600. Thereafter they switched to the XT660.

But, there was a brand new XT600 sold for £3000 a few weeks ago. It was not up for sale for very long at a dealer. They may still be found therefore, and ones that are later registered than 2003 come up as second hand buys here in the UK.

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Dave

Sorry, I have to agree with 'walkabout'....still BMW by far, and I mean the old airheads. Lucky for me 'Martynbiker' is on a ban or I'd be 'flamed' for this post!

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'He who laughs last, was too slow to get the joke'
Never confuse the map with the journey.

Perhaps I should withdraw that comment and replace it with -

"Probably the most widely used African Adventure bike ever"
There is that more acceptable to you (BMW) purists out there?

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Triumph Bonneville 800 (2004), Yamaha XT600E (1999), Honda XBR500 (1986).

NO, first cut is the deepest!

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'He who laughs last, was too slow to get the joke'
Never confuse the map with the journey.

"Most popular RTW bike" depends on what you consider "the world".

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Patrick passed Dec 2018. RIP Patrick!

I am curious now, what happened ?

If you mean what happened to Martynbiker,well Caminando has been baiting him for a while and when Martyn retaliated it resulted in a ban for both of them till Jan30th, before Christmas Cammy got himself a 3 month ban reduced to 4 days ??? for abusing Martyn, it seems Cammy is a prk.

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Never confuse the map with the journey.