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I hope its considerably lighter than the 660 Tenere post-08 model....

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The FZ-07 is 180kg/397 lbs wet, Yamaha are not renowned for making lightweight Adventure bikes, if the MT-07 comes in under 200 kgs/ 440 lbs dry id be very surprised.

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Well - the first Tenere 600 year 83-85 was 163 kg wet weight. And with a 28 liter fuel tank it means it must be less than 150 kgs dry. [url=http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/yamaha_xt600z_te%2084.htm]Yamaha XT 600 Tener

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Ouch - doubleposting

Moderator - please remove

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Yes, the original Tenere's were air cooled and similar weight to their rivals at the time, Im talking about the plump water cooled modern Yamaha's which are heavy to say the least....

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The Xt660r and the Xt660x are around 160-165 kgs dry but the Tenere is 181 kgs dry so theres a certain difference there.

Anyhow I agree that I would be surprised if Yamaha MT-07 Adventure comes at less than 200 kgs. But one can of course hope and dream....

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Some more "meat on the bones" anout the MT-07 Adv...

Yamaha MT-07 Ténéré spied | MCN

Well actually not very much news. It will probably come with 21/18 rims. Ans thats a good thing I guess...

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I've seen reference to a wet weight of 206 kg for the XT660Z, however Yamaha lists the 2015 ABS version as 215 kg wet. To put things into perspective the first-generation 1200GS (2004) was 225 kg wet. I'm guessing the twin engine will be heavier than the 660cc single. I'd like to see an overall weight reduction of 20 kg. Some complain the weight is carried high up and the bike is top heavy, but I don't mind this as its more responsive off-road.

With a more efficient engine the tank could be a couple of litres smaller without affecting range too much. Most people are scared to dig deep into the 6-litre (?) reserve so don't take full advantage of the capacity.

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That is a really good observation that too few really get. Getting the C of G up just a bit can do really good things for handling. All the motocrosser OEM's have done this and of course Moto GP bikes as well.

But it's a complicated engineering mix of C of G, mass placement, frame flex, Rake, Trail, swing arm length and even MORE factors. Hitting all magic numbers is rare.

Regards the potential for a new MT-07 based Tenere', the MCN bike looks like a possible Photo Shop job to me, engine looks modern, the rest of the bike is scruffy, just plain weird.

Look at the front rotors. Check out the big scratches on the swing arm, and its shape. Prototype? Could be I guess ... or a bike cleverly disquised? But for sure Yamaha are up to something.

Dunno.

Sadly agree, that this new mini Tenere' will be a true ADV bike in name only. But who knows? have to wait for Milan (or is it Munich this year?) in November to know for sure.

Seems like an enormous bike (or a very small driver)..
But please take my money!




Yamaha MT07 Tenere revealed

fwiw. I think this has the potential to be a great bike... but looking at the photos above of the prototype and the physical size/build of it, I think we'd be unrealistic to expect it to be anything other than an updated XT660Z with the twin MT07 engine - which is no bad thing in my opinion.

I loved my 2008 model XT660Z - and still consider it the best off-the-shelf 'Adventure' bike when you consider the overall package and it's intended use.

Updating it with a modern smooth and refined twin, with 50% more power is just going to nail it for Yamaha as far as I'm concerned, particularly if they can keep the price below £7500 GBP (as low as £7000 has been suggested by MCN, but you know what they're like ;o) - since it appears that Yamaha have been concentrating on keen pricing in more recent years.

With regard to size, weight and complexity - just as we don't drive (and certainly cannot buy) Series 1 Land Rovers, Toyota BJs etc. anymore - so too bikes are much more refined, comfortable and laden with the latest emissions controls and other legislative components such as ABS etc.

If this bike can come in around the 200Kg mark fully fuelled with a 250+ mile range like the old model, I'm sure it will cause people to consider even the new Africa Twin as overkill for a genuine long-distance travel bike.

Jx