Thanks for all that replied.

At this stage I think we will hit Malaysia or Indonesia up first. Moderate countries first and see how we go.

My girls talk to just about anyone so it may be enlightening for them to interact with everyone and come to their own conclusions in country.

A funny observation though, when I worked in counter terrorism I liaised/interviewed/chatted with many Muslim people. When in the home, I reckon about 70% of the women ran the place and the males were under the thumb. The women would correct them and pull them into line quick smart, far more than western women IME.

Cheers all


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Wherever you go in the world you will find dress expectations towards dress codes - for not only gender distinction, but also for different circumstances (celebrations, religious rituals and holidays, weddings, mourning, fine dining, beach wear, business attire, public appearances, public office, - the list goes on and on).

Some of these might be related to subjugation, others might not. Some may find that women not being allowed to go completely topless where men are allowed to be subjugation of women - even where your children is from.

Breaching with customs may in some instances raise eyebrows amongst some, in other cases it will provocate. In other cases your foreign culture might be welcomed and found amusing or interesting. In all cases it is wise to try to be respectful.

To comments that men are not subjugated to similar expectations is incorrect. Try as a man to grow long hair or wear women's clothing in Saudi Arabia and see how the police will treat you.

My argument to my own children would be. If you think that subjugation may be the case, wether your assumptions are correct or not, that actually makes for a very strong reason to go. Go to learn. Go to have respectful and open conversations about the topic with those that are subjugated to that culture. Leave an impression and be open to have an impression indented in yourself. Assimilation through cultural exchange, as well as respect and understanding of cultural differences, are both paths to bridging the gap towards a more civilized world - ignorance or unwillingness to have one’s own convictions and predispositions challenged is just the opposite. By refusing to go by such an argument, one is part of a problem, not a solution - for creating a better world.

Your girls should most surely go with such a disposition, and when there - remember they have two ears and one mouth, and to be sensitive and respectful towards their native hosts. The object should not be to push their convictions down anyone's throats or to ridicule, but to learn and to share insights into their own culture - without hovation - telling people that one's own culture is superior is just pathetic and ignorant as all f- what is best for each of us is up for each and everyone to decide for themselves.

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When in Rome, etc.

It's quite simple really, if you don't want to respect the culture of the places you visit, don't go there. And if you do go, go with eyes and mind open.