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Looks like a lip-smacking year coming up for the AM-look with the 800GS, 690 KTM, the Tenere and dare I say it, even the 700cc Trannie which at 200kg for a lovely smooth V-twin engine is not so shabby over the new Tenere's 183kg. [actually I read Tran is now 214kg. that's more like it] TBM just rated the Tran, suspension wise, over the XT660, tho it was only a quick ride and Ride like it too. The BMW 800 twin claims 178kg dry...
The new Ten looks the part which initially makes me suspicious: striking looks, relatively heavy with the cat set up and probably cheap suspension. But 22 litres set low down with EFI ought to be good for 450kms. This and the screen are great features. I dont think that low mudguard will be any more of a knobbly problem than it is on KTM Advs.
I dont believe that these days excess weight adds up to a more durable bike as someone mentioned earlier - just a not very sophisticated or a penny-pinching design. What was the original k/s Tenere - 138kg? It didnt need 2 front discs. And as AMers we know that above all, weight is the thing that cramps our style out in the world when the roads get rough. It's the one thing trip reports come back to again and again with heavier bikes.
The Japs in particular have never built bikes for the likes of us - they build them for people who want to look like overlanders because there are a whole lot more of them, right now probably watching BBC on a Sunday night with their mouths agape in admiration!
Anyway, cant wait to find out how they all shape up.
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Something for an updated book perhaps ?? Bum some free demos ??? 
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The Japs in particular have never built bikes for the likes of us - they build them for people who want to look like overlanders because there are a whole lot more of them, right now probably watching BBC on a Sunday night with their mouths agape in admiration!
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Chris, I'm really admiring your fantastic AM feats. Your book along with Jupiter's Travels, 10 years on two wheels, Mondo Enduro on Discovery, HU etc are all fuelling my own and my wife's desire to do The Big Trip. While we're waiting for our kids to grow a bit older so that they can either join us or choose to stay at home, we are doing only shorter trips lasting a few days - trips that probably wouldn't make us fit into the proper overlander category. We're obviously one of "them".
But I still prefer my Guzzi Quota, which perhaps make me look like an overlander, to any other bike (for the time being). My neighbour, on the other hand, prefers his Yamaha R1 even though he realizes he's nothing near being a Valentino Rossi.
What I'm trying to say is that I hoped we all could get along here without being put into categories like "us" and "them". I believe we all dream our dreams, gaping or ungaping, and that not all of us are able to realize them. At least not yet.
Sorry for being miles away from discussing Yamaha's finest - I'll stay on topic from now on.
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Something for an updated book perhaps ??
Of course! Could be a whole new Top 10
Bum some free demos ???
Tried it with Yam last time. They did not have the balls to simply say 'no' - just played hard to get for a few days. Must be some special PR ploy. Anyway sverrirt above seems to have proved the 660 RTW so that will do me.
Indu: Mc-ing has come over all lifestyle/recreational/poseury but an overland journey is no fashion statement, it's the real thing and a functional machine that still delivers when the going gets rough is what will count in the end. Some old Tenere models ticked the boxes, let's hope the new one does too.
You're here reading this (and other stuff) so IMO you're not a dreamer, you're in the early stages of planning so good for you ;-)
But if your neighbour buys a R1200GS Adv with matching riding suit next then I think you should move!
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Had a sit on the new Ten at the bike show and I must say Im impressed. Everything seemed really nice the optional akprokvics looked great. Just avoid the Luggage as it was cheap nasty and already broken. The top of the top box was bust at the plastic hinges. The bike seemed set up nice and they still rekon on under 5 grand here in the UK. Just hope the bike can live up to its name. 
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That equates to £4,871.06 in the UK.. Which if fair, they will sell it for £4995...
But Sadly, the XT660R is £4,599 OTR so they will charge about £1000 more for the Tenere
I guarantee that in "rip off Britain", we will pay at least £5495 OTR for the Tenere  Stu,
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I guess by now a few of us have sat on that bike at the NEC show; yes, the sales guys on the Yam stand reckon that it will be available for £4900 which looks reasonable compared with, say, the XT660R which has been advertised in the recent past for around £4200.
If that is the list price, then it can be just a matter of time before it is discounted by one or more dealers here (far less people looking at this bike than there were around the honeypot on the BMW stand!).
Thing is that, just like the 660R, it still needs the extras - as you say, Stu, the Yam luggage is rubbish - but it does not need as much doing to it as the R model e.g. the exhaust pipes are much higher and it looks like a pretty decent screen as stock.
Overall, it could be a bargain compared with the Beemer offerings.
Anyone know how good the stock suspension is? I forgot to look in rushing about the NEC. 
Stu,
A brand new, unregistered, XT600 was advertised the other day on Motortrader for £3000 - it sold PDQ.
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South africa gets the 2008 tenere late 2008 price depends on the exchange rate at the time,pity it was'nt april when i get there.
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I`ve just heard from a mate that the bike has had a slagging off from the Austrailian press.
Any knowledge of any proper test rides having taken place??
I fancy one, but could be tempted by a KTM if this turns out to be a Cosmetic bike.
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I had a good look round the Tenere at the NEC bike show. No one on the Yamaha stand could explain the high weight quoted for the bike, the only thing that is apparent is the frame does look beefier in places particularly the sub frame, what you could see of it.
Just one issue I need to resolve or discount with a test ride. The seat felt restrictive because the rider is hemmed in between the tank and pillion, you feel stuck and unable to move back or forward. I watched a couple of people bum bounce and they came to the same conclusion. The reason for the high pillion seat is the under seat exhaust. The standard exhaust looks massive and must weigh a few kilos. I wonder if it could cause the seat to get hot as well.
Overall I like it.
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Those exhausts have to go...
Yes, I suspect one of the main sources of weight on the bike are those exhausts, and they would be high on my list of 'to replace' if I went for one of these. The other thing that concerns me a little is that looking at the double headlight makes me feel like I have blurred vision - not sure I'd like that feeling too often. Just as well I'd be sitting behind them. I'm looking forward to sitting on one. If what you say about the seat is true it could be an off-putting point. I usually do a fair bit of moving around on any long journey no matter how good the saddle is.
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As far as the exhausts go at least one of the bikes had an aftermarket aprokivic setup which looked a lot neater than stock (no idea of cost but it aint gona be cheap). I didnt get a proper look at the rear shock but would hope the stock item would be ok. I hope this bike can be a real world alternative to a beemer and if the price stays under 5 grand you could kit one of these out and have a great trip for less than the base price BMW. I found the seat very comfortable and the bike felt good and I am not blessed with long legs, only a decent test ride will confirm what its really like but I can imagine the Tenere is going to be a popular Bike when it comes out, cant wait to try one out.
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I hope Yamaha will sell this model on Brazil  , for me is better to buy one of this to a KTM with an expensive price. 
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You and me both brother!
I live in Caxias do Sul, RS and currently have an old xt600 that runs good but if I ever got a new bike I would like to get the xt660 Tenere!
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Hey, people! Last week I went to the Motorbeurs in Utrecht and the people at the Yamaha stand said the new Tenere isn't available until May! There are some delivery problems with parts(?) to the assembly plant here in Europe where they're made.
One other thing I noticed at the show: the oil-dipstick is in the same place as on the XT660R/X, but now enclosed by the bigger fueltank. There will be a hassle checking the oil, even more adding oil(if needed!). Just a practical point to look at, I thought.
Touratech is developing parts for the new Tenere, so it won't be long after the bike is on the market, one can equip it with travel parts.
Greetz, Hans van Langen.
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