Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Technical, Bike forums > Yamaha Tech
Yamaha Tech Originally the Yamaha XT600 Tech Forum, due to demand it now includes all Yamaha's technical / mechanical / repair / preparation questions.
Photo by Lois Pryce, schoolkids in Algeria

25 years of HU Events


Destination ANYWHERE...
Adventure EVERYWHERE!




Photo of Lois Pryce, UK
and schoolkids in Algeria



 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #2  
Old 21 Jun 2008
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NYS, US
Posts: 8
:confused1: Hmmm

Maybe I really am the only one with a sc model, or is it the -dreaded- new poster plague? I sure hope not, I could use a a bit of help here and this is a technical forum right?

1.) In all of the online parts fiche exploded views I've found to date (ex. attached), the primary main jet (fiche part 7) is noted as #130, and secondary main jet (fiche part 59) is noted as #125.

Clymers M416 - Carb Specs p. 271, show primary main jet #125 and secondary main jet as #130 (which, for those in need of hand holding, would be the exact opposite). Clearly, one is wrong.

As mentioned earlier, I removed an existing #125 primary main jet and #130 secondary main jet during tear down. That leads me to believe Clymer's specs are correct however, adding to the mystery, the bike also came with a #130 primary main jet in the box 'o parts.

I'd like to rebuild the carb to factory specs, can someone confirm the correct oem primary and secondary main jet sizes please.

2.) Soliciting input on this but suspect removing the emissions system will not effect a/f mix sufficiently to require either primary or secondary main or needle jet changes. Correct?

However, if I add a UniFilter, I've seen posts suggesting that a larger secondary main jet was necessary due to increased air flow. I find that kinda hard to believe, assuming all else is stock, since many say these bikes are set factory rich to begin with.

So whadda ya think or, better yet, whats your actual experience? Other than the UniFilter, I'd be sticking with the stock oem air/ exhaust systems for now and riding mostly at 500-1000' ASL.

3.) And today's -best- U.S. source for in-stock carb parts and prices is? Being a small business owner myself I generally prefer to support my local compadres, however, the Yammy shop is the only one around and chooses to bend customers over at the waist each time they walk thru his door for parts. Plus, I refuse to go back after these idjiots sent one of my new bikes home with several loose case bolts after it's initial service and it puked all 2+ quarts of oil on the garage floor.

I've been pricing the carb parts at boats.net (many motorcycle model year parts fiches available) to get oem p/n's and an idea of what the rebuild will cost, but would like to hear your happy referrals.

4.) Has any generous soul compiled a size guide for compatibility of O-rings in the carb? Since an assortment of 500 metric nitrile O-rings goes for about $5.00, I'd prefer not to buy $80 worth of expensive needle sets when I don't need them just to get the O-rings. Mine are so disintegrated I have nothing left to measure.

Specifically, any idea what size are used to replace O-rings on the following fiche parts: 10, 16, 25 and 54.

5.) Thankfully, the only other difficulties I've run into are:

a) Clymers p. 244: Secondary Carburetor Disassembly Step 17 says "On all models, the pilot air screw is fixed in a blind housing (Figure 38) and removal is not recommended as the housing plug must be removed." Why this isn't under Primary Carb Disassembly, who knows.

Regardless, there was no plug on mine so naturally I removed the pilot for cleaning/inspection. It was so gummed up with varnish and rubber I could barely back it out, never mind first turning it in to determine the original position setting.

I've seen posts that say oem position setting is (2) turns out, and I've seen posts that say (3) turns out. Can anyone confirm which setting is correct please?

b) Fiche part 16 (the 3-pc pilot screw set) shows a pilot screw, O-ring and, I presume, a removable needle seat which I can't seem to work it loose. How the heck do I get it out without buggering it all to hell?

Your turn.
Thanks for any comments
Attached Images
 
Reply With Quote
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Touratech 2 litre canister jkrijt Equipment Reviews 12 3 Jan 2008 22:17
iveco 4x4 emissions london marky116 Equipping the Overland Vehicle 7 9 Nov 2007 08:02

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

25 years of HU Events
Be sure to join us for this huge milestone!

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

Virginia: April 24-27
Queensland is back! May 2-5
Germany Summer: May 29-June 1
Ecuador June 13-15
Bulgaria Mini: June 27-29
CanWest: July 10-13
Switzerland: Aug 14-17
Romania: Aug 22-24
Austria: Sept. 11-14
California: September 18-21
France: September 19-21
Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes.
(ONLY US RESIDENTS and currently has a limit of 60 days.)

Ripcord Evacuation Insurance is available for ALL nationalities.


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Every book a diary
Every chapter a day
Every day a journey
Refreshingly honest and compelling tales: the hights and lows of a life on the road. Solo, unsupported, budget journeys of discovery.
Authentic, engaging and evocative travel memoirs, overland, around the world and through life.
All 8 books available from the author or as eBooks and audio books



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 00:58.