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Old 19 Nov 2015
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Just bought a TTR600RE
I've just picked up a 2003 model with 9000 miles.

Spill your guys. What's to know about these ?

Ive had XT600s but this is my first TTR.

I know the shocks off the kickstart model are better but I'll try out the stock ones first.

I'm intending on rising this to Mongolia and selling it in Ulaan Bator.

I'm thinking an Acerbis tank, bash plate and home made luggage racks is all I'll need.

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I'm intending on rising this to Mongolia and selling it in Ulaan Bator.

I'm thinking an Acerbis tank, bash plate and home made luggage racks is all I'll need.

Cheers Ted
+ some kind of screen and a sheep skin over the seat.
Hand guards if not fitted already.
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I did a lot of trails on a tt600e Belgrade yours is the next model up, I find them as good as the xt's in most respects, forks springs upgraded, suspension better, the rake is a little longer better for the roads that's why they turn them into a supermoto still ok for what you want to do, brakes upgraded.
I'll de very surprised if the speedo is working the drive on the hub are nylon and they don't last long, no replacements available.
There's a friend selling a 1997 kick start only £900 if you know any one interested, I can post a picture if needed.
If I remember the tank has about 120-140 miles in it, so yes bigger tank
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I'll de very surprised if the speedo is working the drive on the hub are nylon and they don't last long, no replacements available.
Good call.
I had the same issue with my 2001 model - I couldn't find a speedo drive cable to fit that bike.
I guess some of these new fangled electronic thingies (vapor??) are a potential replecement.
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Had anyone tried using the older XT speedo drives? I imagine the axle is bigger on the TTR , I have bored on drive out to 17mm to use on one USD swap, changes in wheel bearings can bring the axle size down to 17 if the TTR is bigger yet. An axle will need to be made then. DRZ400(or DR650SE) front wheel can be used with it's drive as another option, spacer will possible need to be made but then a person can keep the oem speedometer.
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Best option is to get rid of the speedo drive entirely and replace it with standard spacer.

I think that's what I'll do.

Then use a digital magnetic/pickup style speedo. Trailtech are nice at around £70. Even a £10 bicycle one will work though.
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hi tt600r/re speedo drive is on right side of the bike as you sit on it, xt is on the left so rotation will be reversed ,i cant understand why on some yamaha scooters the plastic speedo gear is available on its own,(look on ebay) ,where as the bigger bikes which should do bigger milages and so need replacement through wear and tear its not ,on my yamaha sr500 (all metal gears) its done 155,000 miles +(first time i took speedo drive apart, through clean and re grease at 95,000 miles) ,i guess they just want to sell more speedos rant over ,steve
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I did no a guy that replaced the hub with another but for the life of me I can't remember witch one he used, I do recall him telling me it cost about £350 as he respoked and powder coated the hub and rim,,,,
As ted said With new wireless speedos for as little as £70 that's the best way to go, I must admit the rear suspetion was very soft great off road but loads of adjustment so would make a very nice adventure touring bike,
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Had anyone tried using the older XT speedo drives?
........................... the oem speedometer.
I seem to recall that the XT drive cable is too short anyway.
Certainly, local spares folks based in the UK couldn't get me a drive for the TTR.

Also, the OEM speedo is not of great quality - at one time I had two of them; again, I can't recall exactly why I decided to buy a second owner spare but it may have been because the drive cable inside had also failed.
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hi tt600r/re speedo drive is on right side of the bike as you sit on it, xt is on the left so rotation will be reversed
I had to buy an XT drive cable to discover that!
(I did know about the RHD on my TTR, just not the rest).

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i cant understand why on some yamaha scooters the plastic speedo gear is available on its own,(look on ebay) ,where as the bigger bikes which should do bigger milages and so need replacement through wear and tear
That got up my nose also.

At the time I put it down to cheese paring in the parts that are out of sight (and out of mind mostly) to pay toward those very nice shocks on the back.

But the Belgarda Yams, made in Italy, have these foibles.
e.g. the OEM exhausts do tend to fall apart at the end cap - the pop rivets that secure the end cap don't secure it because they act in direct tension (rather than in shear). So, when they loosen up and fail the end cap flies off into the nearest hedge row, never to be seen again.
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We have a company , Motion Pro , that makes replacement cables to whatever length a person needs. If an XT stock is too short a person just gets one +2" or 3" or whatever extra is needed , so cables aren't any issue for these custom setups . I would think they wound ship to the UK , the cost for shipping however , well....

Have you tried using a good synthetic grease or high moly content grease/heavy oil to see if wear will be reduced . Maybe needs to be cleaned and re-lubed annually, even though it shouldn't . Heck if I had a sample I could machine some out of steel ,bronze ,or high strength aluminum.
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I've just picked up a 2003 model with 9000 miles.

Cheers Ted
Are you good with the 9K mileage in 12 years?

Separately, the more I recall it, the more I think the whole of the speedo system, for the kicker TTR600 anyway, is a pile of junk.
IIRC, the innards of the speedo head also consist of gears made of nylon.
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I don't know this bike well, but I guess it's something like this one?
2004 Yamaha Tt600Re for sale in Cornwall England

We had the TTR600 bike here (OFF ROAD ONLY model). But one could make it street legal in those years (more difficult now).

Quite a few guys I knew rode TTR's in the early-mid 90's in Enduros and did well.

I understand you don't want to spend a fortune on prep ... but surly you'll need more comfortable seat? Hope you can post up some pics so we can follow your build/prep. Good luck with it .... :
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hi heres a pic of a worn gear ,it turns against a metal cylindrical gear (which is turned by the speedo cable) that wears the middle of the plastic gear which you can see in the pic ,has happened to me and i think everyone ive spoken to with a tt600r/re ,not a question of if but when, steve
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You're on the right track Ted, skip the stock Speedo set up. Go electronic/Digital.
More accurate, multi trip meters, run time, clock and a bunch more features.
Just keep the battery fresh and route the pick up wire carefully and all good. The good ones are even waterproof.
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