 |
|
22 Mar 2007
|
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: N.Ireland
Posts: 54
|
|
supermoto wheels xt600e
Hello guys
Has anyone tried or had success in fitting supermoto 17" wheels to an xt600. Ive an '03 600e and a mate has a set of mint talon/excel wheels that fit the yzf motocross range. I am going to offer them up to the bike when i borrow them in the next week or so. but if this doesn't work, it there an alternative, apart from having 17" rims fitted to the std hubs. Im a machinist by trade so making spacers and caliper brackets won't be a problem, but im wary of clearance of the swingarm, chain etc. Anyone any experience of this situation
Thanks
|
28 Mar 2007
|
 |
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wirral, England.
Posts: 5,673
|
|
Shouldnt be a problem..
Best getting a wheel builder to use the original hubs and drilling Excel tagasako rims and building them up.. Prob cost about £350 for the whole job inc parts.
I know a guy who can do the job for you if you want his details. He builds wheels for KTM and does these jobs on the side for cash 
__________________
Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.
|
28 Mar 2007
|
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: N.Ireland
Posts: 54
|
|
|
thanks tedmagnum
Ive been looking into my options and think, as you say, the best option for me is to relace the stock hubs to new 17" sm rims. Then im sure i have no issues with spacing, brakes, speedo drive etc I have a reputable wheel builder who i priced for the job. Giving him the old wheels and new rims, he will strip the old trail rims off, and relace the new rims on, with all spokes and nipples supplied for £60 each wheel. I was expecting more to be honest. I had sourced a complete WRP wheel set, but it was going to run into more money than i am willing to spend.
People have been saying buy the complete wheel set and keep the trail set as a spare, but the reality is i will not be riding off road on the XT (have the crf250 for that) so will have no need for the original size wheels. Plus, i could maybe sell the old rims off to recoupe some of the expenditure.
So, expect a picture of my supermoto'ed up xte in the next month or too.
Cheers
Gav
|
31 Mar 2007
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: sunny England
Posts: 790
|
|
|
i SMed mine a few years ago, makes a much better road bike without the 21" front knobbly. ive got dunlop GPR sports tyres on talon rims laced to original hubs with HD stainless spokes.
dont listen to anyone who says you cant put inner tubes in a tubeless tyre, course you can, its the other way round that doesnt work very well.
the front grip will be much better now which really shows up how rubbish the brake is and how soft the forks are. unless you go the expensive route and get a full brake conversion(dont think you can get one for these anyway) heavier fork oil and a braided hose is all you need. sintered pads too.
__________________
dave
|
31 Mar 2007
|
|
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wirral, England.
Posts: 5,673
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by DAVSATO
i SMed mine a few years ago, makes a much better road bike without the 21" front knobbly. ive got dunlop GPR sports tyres on talon rims laced to original hubs with HD stainless spokes.
dont listen to anyone who says you cant put inner tubes in a tubeless tyre, course you can, its the other way round that doesnt work very well.
the front grip will be much better now which really shows up how rubbish the brake is and how soft the forks are. unless you go the expensive route and get a full brake conversion(dont think you can get one for these anyway) heavier fork oil and a braided hose is all you need. sintered pads too.
|
Yup, quite right. Your quite safe putting street tubeless rubber on spoked wheels with a good inner tube.
All supermoto owners do this on road and track.
You should NEVER really put tube tyres on a tubless rim though. They arnt tested or strong enough to with stand the pressure.
__________________
Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.
|
1 Apr 2007
|
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: N.Ireland
Posts: 54
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by DAVSATO
i SMed mine a few years ago, makes a much better road bike without the 21" front knobbly. ive got dunlop GPR sports tyres on talon rims laced to original hubs with HD stainless spokes.
dont listen to anyone who says you cant put inner tubes in a tubeless tyre, course you can, its the other way round that doesnt work very well.
the front grip will be much better now which really shows up how rubbish the brake is and how soft the forks are. unless you go the expensive route and get a full brake conversion(dont think you can get one for these anyway) heavier fork oil and a braided hose is all you need. sintered pads too.
|
I've already gone down the braided hose route. It did improve the front brake i must say. The forks and the next stumling block. The dive at the slightest touch of the brake. I'll pull them apart and service them. And try the heavier oil to see if it improves things.
thanks
|
2 Apr 2007
|
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 8
|
|
|
Definitely something i'm looking at doing (on my 96 XT600e). Ideally i'd get custom wheels made with a 320mm disc and caliper bracket, but i think this is going to cost too much for me. Guessing that i'll probably just end up relacing the front hub with a 17in rim and putting a 120 tyre on it.
Would I be able to get away with just doing this, and leaving the rear wheel as it is, putting a 130 or 140 road tyre on it? I don't know a whole lot about wheels / tyres, so not sure if the rim would be wide enough, or if it would give the rear tyre too steep a profile.
also, putting a smaller front master cylinder (14mm, 1/2" or 12mm) with braided lines will make a noticeable difference. still need to use better pads and stiffen the forks though.
Cheers,
Phil
|
4 May 2007
|
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: N.Ireland
Posts: 54
|
|
job done
well guys it's a month since i asked on the forum about the fitting of supermoto wheels to my xt600e.
Been quite busy i must say.
The bike is now back on 2 wheels albeit 2 17" wheels with pirelli rubber.
And a few other bits and bobs and mods done too. Namely blasting the frame swingarm and fork legs and having them powdercoated semi gloss black, fitting taper bars. And also refitted my home made adapted yzf250 pipe
Very happy with the outcome. Just a acerbis supermoto front fender to add and maybe some wrap around brush guards. Heres a couple pics hope the links work
http://images.kodakgallery.com/photo...80111_0_SM.jpg
http://images.kodakgallery.com/photo...80111_0_SM.jpg
Last edited by gavxt600e; 5 May 2007 at 11:49.
Reason: bad pic link
|
5 May 2007
|
|
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wirral, England.
Posts: 5,673
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by gavxt600e
well guys it's a month since i asked on the forum about the fitting of supermoto wheels to my xt600e.
Been quite busy i must say.
The bike is now back on 2 wheels albeit 2 17" wheels with pirelli rubber.
And a few other bits and bobs and mods done too. Namely blasting the frame swingarm and fork legs and having them powdercoated semi gloss black, fitting taper bars. And also refitted my home made adapted yzf250 pipe
Very happy with the outcome. Just a acerbis supermoto front fender to add and maybe some wrap around brush guards. Heres a couple pics hope the links work
http://images.kodakgallery.com/photo...0111_0_ALB.jpg
http://images.kodakgallery.com/photo...0111_0_ALB.jpg |
Pictures dont work mate !
__________________
Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.
|
5 May 2007
|
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: N.Ireland
Posts: 54
|
|
|
20 May 2007
|
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hants UK
Posts: 23
|
|
Nice job, Gav! 
|
27 May 2007
|
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 3
|
|
Hi new to the forums  (1st post)
Just to say i have had my XT600E since september 06 and about 1 month ago i supermotoed it. What i done was to get some rims and spokes and get them lashed to my origional hubs.
What it cost me was £450.00 GBP for Black Excel Tagasako rims with stainless steal spokes made by Talon, and an extra £40.00 GBP per wheel for the spoking up of them. The sizes of my wheels were 17" x 4.25 rear and 17" x 3.50 rear which fits and looks real well. Also as a extra touch ive added a nice acerbis supermoto mudguard.
Things which i also had to do was to put some spacers in the front forks with a thicker grade oil as they were far to soft for the new wheels, and i also found the back end too be too soft and i also used to get a wobble at high speeds, and by tighting the rear shock up it handled a lot better plus it got rid of the high speed wobble.
Also when i dropped the front wheel from a 21" to a 17" the speedo now reads 5 mph out at about 30 mph and about 8 mph out at 70 mph. But i have myself a new digital speedo to fit just havnt got round to doing so yet.
Ill add some pictures as soon as i can get some taken
|
27 May 2007
|
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: N.Ireland
Posts: 54
|
|
since i posted the pics of my xt, i fitted an acerbis supermoto fender. really good colour match for a non ymaha part. finishes off the motard look eh. where did you source you're digital speedo? im interested in fitting 1 to take the guesswork out of the original speedo. any details? I've just got it through it's 1st mot on friday but as i dislocated my elbow off the motocrosser yesterday, i'll not be riding it for a couple months boohoo
thanks
|
27 May 2007
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: sunny England
Posts: 790
|
|
|
the speedo reads about 16% too fast. i just put some stickers on the glass temporarily, cos mine was in kmh anyway. i was going to get on the PC and print a new clock face but now i cant be bothered.
__________________
dave
|
27 May 2007
|
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 3
|
|
This is the speedo which ive got should be fitting within the next couple of weeks
Supermoto World Trail Tech Motorcycle Computer
the top one 
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Next HU Events
ALL Dates subject to change.
2025 Confirmed Events:
- Virginia: April 24-27 2025
- Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025
- Germany Summer: May 29-June 1 2025
- CanWest: July 10-13 2025
- Switzerland: Date TBC
- Ecuador: Date TBC
- Romania: Date TBC
- Austria: Sept. 11-15
- California: September 18-21
- France: September 19-21 2025
- Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2 2025
Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!
Questions about an event? Ask here
See all event details
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...
2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.
"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)
Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.
Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.
Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!
What others say about HU...
"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia
"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK
"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia
"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA
"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada
"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa
"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia
"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany
Lots more comments here!
Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook
"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.
Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!
New to Horizons Unlimited?
New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!
Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.
Read more about Grant & Susan's story
Membership - help keep us going!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.
|
|
|
helps answer the question - Why Go? Inspirational stories by veteran travellers Greg Frazier (5 times RTW), Peter and Kay Forwood (193 countries), Tiffany Coates (Mongolia Mayhem) and Rene Cormier (University of Gravel Roads).
Get Ready! covers planning, paperwork, medical and many other topics! "Inspirational and Awesome!" See the trailer here!
What stuff do I need - riding gear, clothing, camping gear, first aid kit, tires, maps and GPS? What don't I need? How do I pack it all in? Lots of opinions from over 150 travellers!
break down language barriers, overcome culture shock, ship the bike and deal with breakdowns and emergencies."Just makes me want to pack up and go!" See the trailer here!
Grant demystifies the black art of Tire Changing and Repair to help you STAY on the road! "Very informative and practical." See the trailer here!
Ladies on the Loose! For the first time ever, a motorcycle travel DVD made for women, by women! These intrepid women share their tips to help you plan your own motorcycle adventure. They also answer the women-only questions, and entertain you with amazing tales from the road! Presented by Lois Pryce, veteran solo traveller through South America and Africa and author of 'Lois on the Loose', and 'Red Tape and White Knuckles.'
Cotton or synth sweat-wicking t-shirts with the cool Horizons Unlimited graphic on the front and a snappy slogan (changing every year) on the back.
Show your route on your panniers. Great conversation starter when you meet people on the road!
Motorcycle and travel books to inspire and inform you!
The definitive guide to planning your motorcycle adventure! This insanely ambitious 2-year project has produced an informative and entertaining 5-part, 18 hour video series. "The ultimate round the world rider's how-to!" MCN UK.
supermoto wheels xt600e
job done
Linear Mode
