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TT600S electroshocking rider
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new to this comunity, so allready sory for my english.
Have been looking for topic like this for some time, but could not find anything.
I hope someone can help me before i get fried.
My TT600s started to electrocute me one day. If touched engine and handlebars powerful electroshock was delivered. Assumed that it is something in high voltage parts. Changed coil,plug and wire. problem stopped. Few days after that I got shocked again while riding. last high voltage part left on bike is plug cap. Could that be the cause of problem?
Maybe some poor grounding of wire harness?
Will be grateful for any advice!
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When the coil delivers a spark to the plug, that spark has got to go through to earth somehow (no circuit = no spark). Normally it will just flow through the engine, then via either an earth wire back to the battery or, via the engine mounts to the frame and thence to the earth lead.

That spark will flow through the easiest route back to battery earth and if it can't go through the bike it will go through you!

Your problem lies on the earth side, not the delivery voltage side. Look at how the current from the spark can return to the battery. Are the engine mounts badly corroded? Is there an earth wire from the engine to the fame, or the frame to the battery, that is broken or has corrosion where it bolts on?
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This bike is kickstart only and has no battery.
Does that mean, that spark vants to ground back to generator?
Engine has no seperate wire for grounding it.
Can I connest engine to central ground Wire that is also used by lights? or should i simply connect it to frame?
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Find the leak, change plug cap.
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This bike is kickstart only and has no battery.
I guess you have a TT600R, otherwise known as a TTR600 therefore.


If you make a search in here (top right hand side of your screen) for such terms then you will find a few threads about the kick start Belgarda Yamaha.


I used to own one!
Casting around, just for old times sake, I have come upon this which seems to provide the manual for these bikes:-
(maybe for just the TT600RE?)




https://www.manualslib.com/manual/81...0r.html#manual


https://www.manualslib.com/products/...r-3585352.html
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Thank you Dave, but this manual of TT600R clearly shows motorcycle with battery.
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/81...page=46#manual
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You need a battery or capacitors to take up the extra juice and absorb it . There isn't any bike that has no battery as far as I know, some people take the battery out and exchange for capacitors . I'd guess that the extra juice is building up somewhere on the bike till you ground it out and relieve it.


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This bike is kickstart only and has no battery.
Does that mean, that spark vants to ground back to generator?
Engine has no seperate wire for grounding it.
Can I connest engine to central ground Wire that is also used by lights? or should i simply connect it to frame?
Sorry, I was a bit off target above, but have had another think. The spark passes from the HT coil across the plug gap and has to return to the HT coil for there to be a circuit. If it can't return via the normal way (via the engine block to the other side of the secondary winding on the coil) then it either won't spark, or it will find another way - you.

So you need to look at how the engine connects back to the ignition coil.
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