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Hi fella,
Hope you're enjoying your XT? I'm in the same boat that you were in! Could you list exactly what items you ordered so that I can follow suit? Many thanks!  |
Sorry, just saw this. Will look up the details for you. Prob too late, but may help someone else.
Although - I'm moving more towards the soft-luggage camp.
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Hello everyone,
I got the H&B rack for my XT but the instructions are 
I figured they may be in German but also assumed that there would be a diagram to go with them intead of just written instructions.
Der Bausatz umfaBt folgende Teile:
1 Koffertrager links
1 Gepackbrucke
2 Sechskantschrauben M 8 x 25
1 Sechskantschraube M 6x 25
4 Sechskantschtauben M 6 x
20
2 Sechskantschtauben M 8 x 65
4
Schlo~schtauben M 6 x 16
2 Inbussschrauben M 8 x 25
1 Karosseriescheibe
12:1 6,4 x 0 18 mm
2 Karosseriescheiben 0 8,4 x 0 25 mm
1 Koffertrager rechts
1 Versteifungsbugel
11 U-Scheiben 0 8,4
5 U-Scheiben 0 6,4
2 selbstsichernde Muttern M 8
5 selbstsichernde Muttern M 6
2 Aiudistanzen 0 15 0 9 x 13 mm
1 Inbusschtaube M 8 x
20
4 Kunststoffkappen M 8
1 Kunststoffkappe M 6
Montagehinweise
Die Sitzbank abnehmen, Haltegriffe und Heckverkleidung demontieren, die Blinkerkabel der
hinteren Blinker trennen und die Blinker demontieren.
Die vordere Rohrstrebe des rechtsn Koffertragers wird
auf1en Ober die Auspuffbefestigung am
Rahmen mit der lnbusschraube M 8 x 20 montiert. Der vordere seitliche Befestigungswinkel des
Koffertragers wird aul1en Ober der Auspufftopfbefestigung montiert. Die dicke Original-U-Scheibe
kommt darunter, die Befestigung erfolgt mit der Originalschraube.
Die vordere Rohrstrebe des linken Koffertragers wjrd an der hinteren oberen Verschraubung des
SoziusfuBrastenauslegers verschraubt. Die Strebe wird zwischen Rahmen und Ausleger
geschoben; zur Verschraubeung die Inbusschraube M 8 x 25 verwenden. Unter der vorderen
Befestigung werden 3 U-Scheiben
0 8,4 als Abstandshalter zWischengefOgt. Zur Verschraubung
ebenfalls die Inbusschraube M 8 x 25 verwenden.
Der vordere seitliche Befestigungswinkel des linken Koffertragers wird auBen Ober der
Haltelasche des KotflOgels montiert. Hierzu die Sechskantschraube M 6 x 25 verwenden, von
innen eine Karosseriescheibe
0 6,4 x 0 18 mm unterlegen.
Nun die Blinker an den Haltelaschen der Koffertrager wie original montieren und die Blinkerkabel
zusammenstecken; sie mOssen nicht verlangert werden.
Heckverkleidung montieren. Die Haltegriffe an den vorderen Verschraubungen wie original
montieren. Die hinteren Verschraubungen der Haltegriffe geschieht zusammen mit der
GepackbrOcke.
Die Aludistanzen
01509 x 13 mm in die Bohrungen als Abstandshalter einsetzen, darOber die
GepackbrOcke schieben. Zur Befestigung die Sechskantschrauben M 8 x 65 nebst U-Scheiben verwenden.
Now Google Translate has turned this into something 1/4 understandable but I'm a bit concerned about just putting it together 'my way' as it will be supporting a fair bit of weight and I don't want it to snap because of how I put it together.
I emailed H&B at the start of the week regardiing instructions but as yet had no reply. Does anyone know where I can find an English set or at least a diagram?
Many thanks,
Joe
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Hi,
Tried Google Tranislate, which has made the instructions semi understandable. TBH armed with those it will probably be OK, but it would have been nice to have had at least a diagram included.
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I had the same problem, and with a bit of editing Google translate did quite well.
It's actually quite easy once you offer everything up and figure out what's what.
Some pointers:-
The rack attaches over the original pillion grab rails - there'll be a big gap if you don't have them.
The middle attachment point on the exhaust side fits to the rear exhaust bracket, but it didn't fit mine very well at all, required a bit of bending.
Here's the best photo I could dig out.
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Thank you Todderz, very helpful
I notice that the indicators are gone now, are they meant to be relocated to the tabs with holes in that poke out rearward from the original mounting place?
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Brilliant Todderz, thank you.
At the moment I've only got the rear rack installed as I don't need the side racks quite yet. But as the tabs to relocate the indicators are on the side racks I've had to use the original indicators as mounting bolts. Do you think this will be OK?
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No idea, but it is a good question. I'm not an engineer, but the hollow indicator bolt is probably not rated for the same stresses as the solid bolt supplied for use with the pannier rails.
On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that Kedo sell the rack separately, and that would probably mean that you have to use the indicators in their original position, so it's probably OK. Bear in mind the stated weight limit though. I think it's only 8 or 10kg?
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I don't know how they compare as I havnt used the Oxfords. These cortech ones are brill. I was lucky that an American girl brought them to BSAS for me after my Metal mules got turned into scrap metal in a crash..
I had the bent metal mule pannier frames to act as a heat shield although you can easily make or buy some cheap pannier rails...
I really do urge you to go soft .... The weight and size of hard boxes is a nightmare and when/if you crash or even fall, they often bend and the brackets snap etc.. With softbags, the WORST that will happen is a rip or tear which is SOOOO easy to fix yourself.
The wieght saving is brilliant too making your XT handle much better offroad and when you drop the bike, the soft bags just absorb the crash and save the bodywork ! BONUS
Finding someone who can sow is about 1000000x easier than someone who can weld aluminium !!
As for security, Pacsafe work if you're paranoid but I would just have a lockable topbox for any valuables and just use the side bags for clothes, books, etc etc ! But I have never had anyone try and get into my bags anyway...
Before !!! £900 Aluminium luggage
After a crash !!
I admit this was a high speed crash on sand/gravel but the bust luggage made the trip a nightmare until I could replace it !! |
looks like the hard cases saved the bike and probably teds neck. my opinon on hard or soft luggage just comes down to personal choice and which bike you intend on using.hard luggage on a 125 would be overkill.
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SEeing as this thread has been bumped I'll add the pictures of my Hepco and Becker rack fitted to my bike.
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Ok gents….as I'm not at all familiar with the 1VJ, would a rack from a 1VJ (rear top box style only) bolt up to a 1990-94 600E without mods to the plastic???
Yep, i know it's a long shot but you gotta ask
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I'm no expert on frames for the 600E, but I bought an official Yamaha rear rack for my 94 (3TB) - the only one they list for the entire XT range. I can tell you that it does not fit the 1990-94 3TB without modification - a piece has to be cut out of the tailpiece plastic on the left side, and the front right-hand bolt needs to be packed out with about 20mm worth of washers in order to fit. I suspect (i.e. wild guess) that it is designed for the later 4TP model.
Having said that, it is still firmly attached after 2-3 years and does the job. It's rusted badly, though, and I have repainted it twice.
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I'm no expert on frames for the 600E, but I bought an official Yamaha rear rack for my 94 (3TB) - the only one they list for the entire XT range. I can tell you that it does not fit the 1990-94 3TB without modification - a piece has to be cut out of the tailpiece plastic on the left side, and the front right-hand bolt needs to be packed out with about 20mm worth of washers in order to fit. I suspect (i.e. wild guess) that it is designed for the later 4TP model.
Having said that, it is still firmly attached after 2-3 years and does the job. It's rusted badly, though, and I have repainted it twice.
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Thanks mate i thought as much, have a  on me!
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Well, this is the rack i bought, (Hepco & Becker) it's claimed to be for a 1VJ but…..
As you can see it looks to be identical as the rack for my 91 600e (H & B photo) and even with postage will come in well under half the new price
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