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20 Feb 2012
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xt600 supermoto
Hello Xt'rs
new here,
i am based in milan, italy and road race vintage stuff like CB500/4 and a 750/810 Gpz in the national series.
in order to get more (and cheaper) track time, bought a nice condition 1990 XT600E with 25K km that i am in the process of turning into a supermoto.
It is not meant to be a racer, just something to train with in a track i have near home (Castelleto di Branduzzo)
Pista
Not going to mess with the motor much, it's sweet running, so just a foam air filter and straight through exhaust.
TZR 17" with a 300mm disc wheels are on the way, gonna fit a GSXR caliper for braking in the front.
A few questions then:
15/45 is the stock gearing, I will surely want to shorten as this is a supermoto track only bike. does anybody have any experience with supermoto track gearing for an XT? Bike will not be used for any street riding, just SM track and a slow one at that.
suspension set up. I will lower and stiffen the front springs, any numbers as to a baseline ride height and spring rate? any ideas for a reasonable shock change that doesnt include a 1000$ ohlins?
any recommendations regarding jetting changes for a foam filter and open race exhaust? The bike has the usual stock double carb jobbie.
Will post pics when the bike starts take shape. right now its a plain XT600E....
Grazie mille in advance
TG
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The carb runs rich stock, so if you need any jetting go up one number in idlejet, and I bet you're pretty close, if you only use it for track, a k&n should breathe better, or atleast thats my guess?
As for gearing, it depends on the track. Try with stock gearing, and take it from there. Its easy and cheap to add a 14 tooth frontsprocket, to try that out aswell.
Wilbers and hagon have shocks at around 4-500euro that seems good. A friend of mine has a wilbers on his xtz660, it was tons better than the old worn out shock =)
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thanks jens
track is 90% slow, like mostly 2nd gear turns save for a staight with up to 140km/h in a supermoto. in th ebottom of the link i posted there's a nice telemetry video
14 front is surely a start but as i have to put a new chain, would hate finding out later that i cut it too short for bigger rear sprockets...
will check into those shocks but been looking today and the stock one looks rebuidable. might give it a try
tnxs
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As far as I recall, you can go 14-47 on stock chain. So a 14 for a starters might not be so bad afterall.
I dont think you will need it much lower, otherwise I think you will hurt youre topend too much.
Try messing around at www.gearingcommander.com You can see which sprockets gives you what speed, at different rpm's its good stuff.
Cant wait for the pictures
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yep, i know gearingcommander, it's really nice, the data on the GPZ750 was entered by me
but i just discovered that kedo have an even more useful gearing calculator that lets you know also axle displacement according to sprockets and how many links you run in the chain!
just what i needed!
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If you have access to an older kick-start XT600 / TT600 / XT550 /SRX-6 engine, consider swapping in the primary drive and clutch basket. The gearing is shorter in the older bikes. The lower primary gearing not only lowers the overall gearing, but results in better acceleration.
Offset from the triples isn't correct for 17" front wheel. Bike will be twitchy with stock forks. If you can swap triples or forks for something that less offset/ more trail, the bike will work better. I went to an entire front end from a MZ Mastiff for mine. If you can get more trail in the front, a longer shock will be better for the rear. On mine, I have an earlier, longer XT600 shock that has been revalved and a stiffer spring.
Good luck!
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