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Have I got this right?
I am about to commit a #$%# load of money to ship my bike from New Zealand to USA and on air fares for my wife and I.
Being New Zealanders we do not need visa for any Central or South American country (but because we have previously travelled in Syria and Iran we have an appointment with the US consulate here on Thursday to hopefully get a visa for the US).
So once we have the bike in USA we can "simply" head south without needing any other special things (yes we will arrange motorcycle and health insurance)?
We are both vaccinated for Covid.
Yes I know this is a simple question, we have researched on the web, but just want the final confirmation from others who have travelled that way.
Thank you
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Insurance? For your bike and to cover your medical expenses? Most of US states require some kind of liability insurance and hospitals are very expensive so you may want some kind of travel insurance with hospital coverage.
Do you have 5G phone? World phone plan? If not get prepaid something like cricket or straight talk in walmart. Preferably via AT&T they have better rural coverage. Also phone selection is important if your phone doesn't support 5G EX (band n64?) you may be left without service outside of interstate system.
Free Wi-Fi is available at fast food and hotels so you just need enough data for emergencies, WhatsApp and Google maps.
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Insurance? For your bike and to cover your medical expenses? Most of US states require some kind of liability insurance and hospitals are very expensive so you may want some kind of travel insurance with hospital coverage.
Do you have 5G phone? World phone plan? If not get prepaid something like cricket or straight talk in walmart. Preferably via AT&T they have better rural coverage. Also phone selection is important if your phone doesn't support 5G EX (band n64?) you may be left without service outside of interstate system.
Free Wi-Fi is available at fast food and hotels so you just need enough data for emergencies, WhatsApp and Google maps.
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Thank you, and sorry I did mean travel insurance
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FOUR kinds of insurance you need to know about for travelling
Remember, there are FOUR kinds of insurance that are relevant:
- Vehicle / Liability insurance to legally drive on the road in most countries
- Travel Insurance, the usual medical stuff. Be SURE you're actually covered!
- Evacuation insurance, to get you out and home.
- The one that you generally can't get for your bike once you're out of your home country / area; theft and damage for the bike.
Re: 1 - Canada / USA and Mexico all REQUIRE you have Liability insurance before driving anywhere. Loads of threads on this.
Countries south, you generally get it at the border when you get there. Mexico too, but it's a LOT easier if you do it in advance online.
Re: 2 - READ THE FINE PRINT! Much travel insurance assumes you're going on holiday to a resort, and at most will be renting a scooter, so it's invalid over 30 days or over 125cc!
Re 3 - yeah you want evac insurance. A Recent Evac was US$190,000 to get someone from Africa to USA. Yes you can afford it, or you can't afford to go. See the Ripcord and Global Rescue ads on the home page and elsewhere. Yes we make a few dollars if you buy from them using our links, but they're there BECAUSE we recommend their type of service.
Re 4 - Theft and damage for the bike - you're self insured. Also known as a very big reason many people take old bikes not expensive new ones.
Hope that helps, and that you have a GREAT trip!
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There is usually a place you can buy liability insurance at Mexico border.. and probably a better deal in border town but none on US side. Mexico also takes a deposit for TIP (temporary importation) make sure you check bike out when you leave and get money back. Besides loosing ~$500 when TIP expires in 6mo you will have problems coming into country next time.
As for medical 5 years ago I hit an effin deer at 60mph. Nothing broken just tore ligaments and was on the crutches for several weeks. 3min ambulance ride (crash happened practically in front of the hospital) x-rays, crutches, Tylenol and a shot ended up with ~$5000 bill.
I don't bother with insurance in any other country but wouldn't dare do the same in US of A.
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So exiting times, we obtained our USA visa today, and scary as it means there is nothing stopping us now to do this adventure :-)
Thank you everyone for your replies, one question re insurance for USA and Mexico - we plan to leave USA fairly quickly and travel into Mexico. As we have dont have a set schedule we won't know how long we will be in Mexico for. So do we say buy 8 weeks of coverage for USA and Mexico and then buy more if we are still in Mexico - does it work that way?
(Grant I have emailed Ripcord asking for a "Offer code" and your link to Global Rescue no longer works)
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So exiting times, we obtained our USA visa today, and scary as it means there is nothing stopping us now to do this adventure :-)
Thank you everyone for your replies, one question re insurance for USA and Mexico - we plan to leave USA fairly quickly and travel into Mexico. As we have dont have a set schedule we won't know how long we will be in Mexico for. So do we say buy 8 weeks of coverage for USA and Mexico and then buy more if we are still in Mexico - does it work that way?
(Grant I have emailed Ripcord asking for a "Offer code" and your link to Global Rescue no longer works)
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From what I remember buying insurance at mexican border the difference between 1 and 6 months was maybe 30%. I think my Canadian friend buys insurance online but I usually don't bother just get at the border.
Where are you shipping bike to? LA? There are lots of things to see in US and Southwest is nice this time of the year it's actually prime time for Death Valley.
Here's a thread on ADVrider on Mexico ask there and guys would help you in. Many thread regulars either live in MX or spend considerable amount of time there good luck
https://www.advrider.com/f/threads/i...o-safe.546927/
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So exiting times, we obtained our USA visa today, and scary as it means there is nothing stopping us now to do this adventure :-)
(Grant I have emailed Ripcord asking for a "Offer code" and your link to Global Rescue no longer works)
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Thanks for letting me know Mike, FIXED now.
Global Rescue link for 2022 (they've changed their system!)
Full Disclosure: If you buy from any of these guys we get a portion of the fee. It costs you nothing more.
Thanks for using our links and letting them know we sent you!
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As far as medical insurance is concerned we got a world wide cover INCLUDING USA AND CANADA from our home country.
Bike insurance for Canada and USA was through Motorcycle Express (Google). Mexico was through Lewis and Lewis (California - fully comp). Central America was at the border - usually obligatory but not always, if it is they will tell you.
Apart from that you can just go - best resource is IOverlander app for borders, don’t go to a border without checking it. Take original of your bike reg document, make copies (B&W) of passport, license, bike reg - you won’t always need license copies but might need 2 of the others so take plenty.
There are some idiosyncrasies for the odd border so I can’t emphasise enough the importance of checking IOverlander as things change.
I can recommend Overland Embassy for crossing the Darian Gap.
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For moto insurance in Mexico you may want to take a look at Mexadventure.com. Good customer service, I think Chris is the owner.
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I am about to commit a #$%# load of money to ship my bike from New Zealand to USA and on air fares for my wife and I.
Being New Zealanders we do not need visa for any Central or South American country (but because we have previously travelled in Syria and Iran we have an appointment with the US consulate here on Thursday to hopefully get a visa for the US).
So once we have the bike in USA we can "simply" head south without needing any other special things (yes we will arrange motorcycle and health insurance)?
We are both vaccinated for Covid.
Yes I know this is a simple question, we have researched on the web, but just want the final confirmation from others who have travelled that way.
Thank you
Kiwi Mike
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Just to hijack a little, can I ask where you’re shipping to and what company did you use.
Many thanks
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Just to hijack a little, can I ask where you’re shipping to and what company did you use.
Many thanks
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