2Likes
-
1
Post By Piha
-
1
Post By tim.angus
|
17 Mar 2022
|
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Belper, uk, EUROPE
Posts: 562
|
|
P&O Ferries stop operation 17 March 2022
Just been announced that P&O ferries are stopping for an unspecified reason:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60779001
As I hear more I will update this thread.
__________________
You will have to do without pocket handkerchiefs, and a great many other things, before we reach our journey's end, Bilbo Baggins. You were born to the rolling hills and little rivers of the Shire, but home is now behind you. The world is ahead.
|
17 Mar 2022
|
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Belper, uk, EUROPE
Posts: 562
|
|
So 800 of their staff have been sacked with immediate effect and, it is thought, that new staff on cheaper and easier for the company contracts no doubt, will be coming in to replace them.
I get that they have been hit by Covid -as have we all - but there appears to be underlying issues with P&O Ferries that are more deep seated - they say that they have been losing £100m year on year which is clearly unsustainable.
The expectation from the company is that they will start running ferries again in a few days - we shall see.
__________________
You will have to do without pocket handkerchiefs, and a great many other things, before we reach our journey's end, Bilbo Baggins. You were born to the rolling hills and little rivers of the Shire, but home is now behind you. The world is ahead.
|
18 Mar 2022
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 8
|
|
An utterly shocking way to treat your employees.
I hope that people will now vote with their wallets but unfortunately money talks.
|
18 Mar 2022
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Devon, UK
Posts: 840
|
|
The drop in business during the covid pandemic somehow didn't prevent them paying £270m in dividends to their shareholders.
Can't see me ever using a company that did that, given the choice.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...acking-316674/
|
19 Mar 2022
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Oxford UK
Posts: 2,116
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Piha
I hope that people will now vote with their wallets but unfortunately money talks.
|
They’ve already got mine - they’re supposed to be bringing us back to the U.K. in just over a fortnight. I’m now wondering if they’ll hold up their part of the deal.
I used to think P&O were the class act of ferries, with the others not much better than jumped up truck transport, but not any longer. What on earth were the management thinking. Did they think we were all looking east and wouldn’t notice. They’d now be far better off keeping the workers and firing all the management.
|
19 Mar 2022
|
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Belper, uk, EUROPE
Posts: 562
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomkat
|
That the parent company paid out £270m in dividends is not a reflection on the viability of P&O - if P&O were not losing “£100m” a year then the dividends would have been higher. However there should be some concern about how much cheaper the replacement staff are. If you work on the basis that they new staff are £10 per hour cheaper and they work a 40 week then the saving is less than £20m so they are either getting the incoming staff to pay for the privilege of working for P&O or there is some BS being given out - I think I know which it is.
Personally, I shall not be using P&O again - not because they will be using new staff but because of the way that they have treated their outgoing staff.
__________________
You will have to do without pocket handkerchiefs, and a great many other things, before we reach our journey's end, Bilbo Baggins. You were born to the rolling hills and little rivers of the Shire, but home is now behind you. The world is ahead.
|
20 Mar 2022
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: England
Posts: 55
|
|
P&O
Many years ago I was a regular user of P&O. They even allowed me to scatter my wife’s ashes from the ferry we used to use. Sadly the current company is a shadow of the one I knew. They even lied to the contract workers saying they were going to go on a new ship and the current crew were bringing the ship in only. I think this is a way of reducing wages and de unionising the workforce. What they have done is actually illegal under current UK law but as we have again sold of the family silver to overseas companies little will be done by the UK government. However people can vote with their feet and there are other operators and the train option.
__________________
Tim & Sue Angus
|
29 Mar 2022
|
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Belper, uk, EUROPE
Posts: 562
|
|
So that saga continues. There are now 2 P&O ferries that are out of service due to safety concerns relating to the crew and their familiarity with the ships.
I know that the UK voted to leave the EU but I didn't realise that that meant the ferries were going too.
__________________
You will have to do without pocket handkerchiefs, and a great many other things, before we reach our journey's end, Bilbo Baggins. You were born to the rolling hills and little rivers of the Shire, but home is now behind you. The world is ahead.
|
29 Mar 2022
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Oxford UK
Posts: 2,116
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay_Benson
So that saga continues. There are now 2 P&O ferries that are out of service due to safety concerns relating to the crew and their familiarity with the ships.
I know that the UK voted to leave the EU but I didn't realise that that meant the ferries were going too.
|
I give up with P&O. I’m in France at the moment and there’s no certainty that they’ll be able to bring us back. So our only option has been to buy another ticket with another company. I don’t suppose we’ll ever see our original ticket money again, and I won’t forget it. Moral outrage aside I’ll need some convincing on financial grounds to use them in the foreseeable future
|
30 Mar 2022
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: West Yorkshire UK
Posts: 1,785
|
|
P&O is obviously run by idiots to think they could get away with this.
If you make a government look stupid (er) you are going to find every petty rule and burocratic minutiae is suddenly dealt with in the harshest way possible. Two ships suddenly impounded is the MCA suddenly sure they have support all the way to the top.
The customers are going to vote with their wallets and pick services less likely to fail due to industrial blockades or government revenge.
If P&O want to get thrown out of the UK market I'll take this back, they are doing a great job.
Andy .
|
30 Mar 2022
|
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Belper, uk, EUROPE
Posts: 562
|
|
An advert popped up on my facebook timeline from P&O Cruises - who were at great pains to make it clear that they were nothing to do with P&O Ferries. It is almost as if P&O had suddenly become a toxic brand name. Who would have thought that? Clearly not the current P&O FERRIES or DP World boards.
__________________
You will have to do without pocket handkerchiefs, and a great many other things, before we reach our journey's end, Bilbo Baggins. You were born to the rolling hills and little rivers of the Shire, but home is now behind you. The world is ahead.
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Next HU Events
ALL Dates subject to change.
2025 Confirmed Events:
- Virginia: April 24-27 2025
- Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025
- Germany Summer: May 29-June 1 2025
- CanWest: July 10-13 2025
- Switzerland: Date TBC
- Ecuador: Date TBC
- Romania: Date TBC
- Austria: Sept. 11-15
- California: September 18-21
- France: September 19-21 2025
- Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2 2025
Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!
Questions about an event? Ask here
See all event details
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...
2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.
"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)
Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.
Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.
Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!
What others say about HU...
"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia
"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK
"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia
"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA
"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada
"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa
"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia
"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany
Lots more comments here!
Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook
"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.
Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!
New to Horizons Unlimited?
New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!
Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.
Read more about Grant & Susan's story
Membership - help keep us going!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.
|
|
|