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Travel w/o Carnet need patience
Worth adding here, that the majority of south america and africa don't require a Carnet, it's just a nice to have.

Countries that you definitely won't get into without a Carnet (in my personal experience) are:
  1. Australia
  2. Iran
  3. Egypt
  4. India

All other countries have varying degrees of enforcement of the use of a Carnet. I know of a few RTWers that due to their extensive travels and patience at borders managed to get into most countries without a Carnet, with the exception of the above. But be aware, that you will be made to do more paperwork without a Carnet as you need to fulfill the temporary import/export requirements of each country. This is really where the Carnet (for me at least) has it's advantages. Think about the language issues the cost for every border crossing and the time when you add it all up the Carnet has it's place.

@Tony P, BTW the Carnet is actually used to guarantee exportation of a vechicle on temporary importation. This is important for countries that want to protect against potentially illegal and illegitimate important of vehichles. It also protects a country's economy from bulk import of used vehicles and keeps more strict controls on the local markets.
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Countries that you definitely won't get into without a Carnet (in my personal experience) are:
  1. Australia
  2. Iran
  3. Egypt
  4. India
Actually it seems plausible, that you could enter Iran without a carnet (by arranging a kind of substitute for it at the border) - I don´t know for sure, because I had one, and so I naturally used it. But there´s been several threads about this subject here at the HUBB. It probably won´t be as simple at the border without it, though.

And yes, the carnet is a sort of a pain, but the upside is, that you can (and usually will) arrange it before leaving home. So it won´t be so much of a pain during your trip, except for keeping it safe, and making sure it gets stamped properly.

Sure everyone´s totally free to decide for themselves, what they want to do, but personally I wouldn´t plan a major RTW-tour around the carnet-thing. Instead I´d think about a suitable route (&timeframe) first, and then arrange the necessary papers to do that route. And of course, if there would be, say, only one country on the whole route, where I´d definitely need it, then I might consider if it´s worth it.
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In some case you can purchase insurance that will cover the carnet cost in case of lost of motorcycle, that can be cheaper than putting the price of the bike in escrow ( but you will not be getting back the moeny of the insurance at your return ) , I used carnet in many country in Asia and Africa and they did make my life easy , consider it a cost of travelling just like visa , they sometime are expensive but evenif you were on foot you will still have to pay for it. Just remember that you may travel in country where they do not speak your language and where they may just refuse your entry and that can worst to your trip than paying upfront money for some papers needed anyway.
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guess it's a bit of a realization day, it's easy to think about just getting on the bike, and riding round the world, but when you start putting things together, you understand that overcoming difficulties or frustrations will become second nature in fairly short order. Maybe my impatience is a part of me that's changing! thanks for your comments.
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