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Edinbrugh Fringe 2022 to Adelaide Fringe 2023

Hello.

This may just be Lockdown dreaming but I'm in the incredibly early stages of planning a trip from Edinburgh to Adelaide in 2022. I work in Comedy at the Edinburh fringe festival every year and want to expereince the big Australian festivals too.

The trip would have to be from the start of September 2022 and arrive mid February 2023.

My questions are

1. Is this a realistic time frame? My back up options if i can't do it in this time would be to fly the bike directly to Australia from my nearest airport if I'm starting to run behind. Or miss the adelaide fringe and go to the melbourne one in march. But if I'm more likely to not arrive until april then i'll need to factor airfreight in sooner. Arriving for the festivals is more important to me than the Journey (but only a little bit. I don't want to just fly there)

2. Are there any countries I should avoid for political reasons, won't get a visa etc. At the moment it looks like UK nationals will need a guide to travel through both Iran and China so it would all depend on which would be cheaper and which one would be easier to get a visa for. I know a lot could happen politically in the next 19 months though.

3. Are there any countries I won't be abe to cross because of the weather. I'll be mostly traveling through autumn and winter but I'm hoping that because I'm heading south I'll be chasing the summer as I go. Obviously everywhere has their own climates and it's dependant on eleveation and loads of stuff. just looking for a rough idea.

Like I said this is very early stages so just a brief nudge in right direction is what I'm looking for.

Thanks all. Hope you're all staying sane.
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Hello.

This may just be Lockdown dreaming but I'm in the incredibly early stages of planning a trip from Edinburgh to Adelaide in 2022. I work in Comedy at the Edinburh fringe festival every year and want to expereince the big Australian festivals too.

The trip would have to be from the start of September 2022 and arrive mid February 2023.

My questions are

1. Is this a realistic time frame? My back up options if i can't do it in this time would be to fly the bike directly to Australia from my nearest airport if I'm starting to run behind. Or miss the adelaide fringe and go to the melbourne one in march. But if I'm more likely to not arrive until april then i'll need to factor airfreight in sooner. Arriving for the festivals is more important to me than the Journey (but only a little bit. I don't want to just fly there)

2. Are there any countries I should avoid for political reasons, won't get a visa etc. At the moment it looks like UK nationals will need a guide to travel through both Iran and China so it would all depend on which would be cheaper and which one would be easier to get a visa for. I know a lot could happen politically in the next 19 months though.

3. Are there any countries I won't be abe to cross because of the weather. I'll be mostly traveling through autumn and winter but I'm hoping that because I'm heading south I'll be chasing the summer as I go. Obviously everywhere has their own climates and it's dependant on eleveation and loads of stuff. just looking for a rough idea.

Like I said this is very early stages so just a brief nudge in right direction is what I'm looking for.

Thanks all. Hope you're all staying sane.
1. Time Frame-I don't know, honestly.

2. Check the FCO Foreign and Commonwealth Office for visa advice. I would not take any chances with this and the actual facts are more important than opinions.
https://www.gov.uk/government/organi...nwealth-office

3. You may be travelling south, but you will also encounter Continentality which means colder winters and warmer summer. If you are travelling in winter basically the further east you go the colder it gets, even south east! You would be surprised! South Eastern Europe, Turkey, Iran, China no joke in winter. From the Urals all the way to Xinjiang China was covered in snow from November 2019-I was in China then and the cold would crack your bones.Once out of the EU things 'are different'.

4. Covid19 -you never mentioned that! And we don't know what that will bring..
Its a good USP for the comedy festivals in Australia, and I am sure you will get lots of material on the road.

5. Find a route that suits you, and break it into small chunks of what you can manage, thats what I do. Be flexible and adaptable. I hate to say this but I do trip planning on Google Maps and a spreadsheet. I break it into manageable chunks as I don't want to be doing 600 mile days, eg
1. Amsterdam-Hannover.
2. Hannover-Cottbus.
3. Cottbus-Krakow..you get the idea..

Best wishes, kind regards and be safe.
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3. You may be travelling south, but you will also encounter Continentality which means colder winters and warmer summer. If you are travelling in winter basically the further east you go the colder it gets, even south east! You would be surprised! South Eastern Europe, Turkey, Iran, China no joke in winter. From the Urals all the way to Xinjiang China was covered in snow from November 2019-I was in China then and the cold would crack your bones.Once out of the EU things 'are different'.

4. Covid19 -you never mentioned that! And we don't know what that will bring..
Its a good USP for the comedy festivals in Australia, and I am sure you will get lots of material on the road.

5. Find a route that suits you, and break it into small chunks of what you can manage, thats what I do. Be flexible and adaptable. I hate to say this but I do trip planning on Google Maps and a spreadsheet. I break it into manageable chunks as I don't want to be doing 600 mile days, eg
1. Amsterdam-Hannover.
2. Hannover-Cottbus.
3. Cottbus-Krakow..you get the idea..

Best wishes, kind regards and be safe.
With the weather thing I was more wondering if areas are completely impassible at different times of the year. Like if between december and january a road I need is completely shut because of annual floods or snow. But thanks for the advice I'll remember to pack extra undies to keep the ol' balls warm.

With Covid, I work behind the scenes on comedy not on stage so at the moment I'm very used to planning something and then it just not happening, only today did I have to cancel a large festival that i'd spent the last few months planning. I figure if all else fails, if i start saving my pennies now to do the trip at the very least I'll have enough money for something else if I cant go. It's not the end of the world (although it might actually be)

And I too bloody love a spreadsheet, I'll get to formatting one now.
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With the weather thing I was more wondering if areas are completely impassible at different times of the year. Like if between december and january a road I need is completely shut because of annual floods or snow. But thanks for the advice I'll remember to pack extra undies to keep the ol' balls warm.

With Covid, I work behind the scenes on comedy not on stage so at the moment I'm very used to planning something and then it just not happening, only today did I have to cancel a large festival that i'd spent the last few months planning. I figure if all else fails, if i start saving my pennies now to do the trip at the very least I'll have enough money for something else if I cant go. It's not the end of the world (although it might actually be)

And I too bloody love a spreadsheet, I'll get to formatting one now.
I cannot answer that to be honest, (Closed roads) it depends on all sorts of variables and the unpredictable.
Make a rough plan and also financially-you are going to need a lot of money, and Aus is bloody expensive!
Good luck.
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