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Thanks a lot for the input! I'll reply to each one of the comments.
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Start out with definite fixed costs.
1) Intercontinental shipping - at the absolute best figure 2k euros for Europe to North America, as much again if not more for Singapore-Alaska (assuming it's container shipping? Where will you wait for the boat to arrive? Both Singapore and Alaska are expensive places to just hang out.)
2) You will probably need a carnet du passage, that's ~3-5k euros tied up in the deposit. Sure you will get that back at the end, but for now you still need to take that chunk out of your ready cash.
3) Going through China even once (with guides) will be in the thousands too.
Some notes on your route, from one who has not been RTW himself but has done some thinking about it...
1) The Dalton Highway to the top of Alaska - from everything I have heard about it, it's a long and difficult, expensive and not necessarily enjoyable or always beautiful slog, for the bragging rights of saying you've ridden as far north as possible. Since you're in Europe anyway, why not ride to Nordkapp instead? It's as far north or more, and the road up there is either beautiful (all-Norway), or fast and easy (mostly-Finland or mostly-Sweden).
1.5) Alternatively, if you want to ride to the north of North America, consider the Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk road, recently completed for year-round use - sounds a lot more pleasant than dodging oil-equipment trucks all day...
2) Have you researched permits to get into Bhutan? From what I know, they are not very overlander-friendly, or tourist-friendly in general.
3) You've also got two separate entrances into China, both of which will be big expenses - and I'm not sure it will be easy at all to find a tour company to run you from the Bhutan border out to the Vietnam border...
4) Getting into Thailand with your own vehicle will be very difficult, they seem to have changed the rules to be as bad as China. (But, to be fair, Thailand's rules change often.)
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1) That's what I am more doubting about. In fact I think south-east Asia is the part which I am least interested in seeing so I might change the route to see more of Nepal or even India and then move to America to keep up with the route but not sure yet.
2) The carnet du passage I had already taken into account for the 20-25k I was assuming as a "lost" investment since until the return I would not have them available.
3) China and specially the Kasgar to Tibet route is one of the parts which I am most looking forward to seeing, thus I would not mind having to pay for the guides. But I have read quit a ton about riders meeting at the border and sharing costs, right?
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1) Dalton highway I totally agree, I am not completely sure about doing it but I'd love to set my route to Alaska and downwards to New York through the TAT. I might change the flight or shipping to seattle/vancouver or even california if that would make it cheaper, and thus get a chance to ride some of the pacific coast as well. Would that be a better option? The Nordkapp option was on the route at first, but camping, food and fuel are superexpensive with the NOK... Don't you think? I have been to Norway before and it is by far more beautiful and awesome than any other European country in my opinion, but cheap its not one of its qualities.
1.5) Will take a look! Have never heard of it.
2) My bad, not yet....
3) Also agree. If in the end I plan to do China (to Lhasa) - Nepal - India that would be solved and officers would not mind getting in-out-in again. And the guide costs would be saved too...
4) Will make a thought about going to south-east Asia. Is it really worth it comparable to India or more time in Nepal-Tibet?
What do you think about timmings? Around a year is ok?
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