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It’s mega expensive to ship from Bangkok. KL is better.
I'm sorry for being dumb, but by KL you mean....?

And thanks to all for the replies. Appreciated.
I don't think I'll gamble on these things. Not at least start out as a gamble, I'd like to start with a good plan, and then the gambling starts if the good plan fails.

I like sun and heat much more than the cold, so that's why I am aiming at Asia instead of the northern route through Mongolia and Russia maybe, and ship to USA from there.
But I also don't want to be driving on time-limits and constantly worrying about guides and costs. A normal Visum is "stressful" enough.

Any suggestions about good places to ship to USA from, if not Thailand?
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KL = Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia)
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I figured, just wanted to be sure.

I guess shipping from Malaysia would satisfy my wish to drive in Asia. Going China, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand and Malaysia, before shipping to USA sounds nice. But those damn "guides"....

The reason for thinking China is because I wanted to avoid Pakistan and India because of safety issues. Or is that just wrong thinking so?

I'll look into a northern alternative like Mongolia/Russia and find somewhere to ship from in Russia or China.
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Well Pakistan is never ideal, but you can cross it with reasonable low risk (you're getting free police escort).
India is usually not such a big deal if you are a man, safety is more an issue in terms of driving, or if you are a woman travelling alone.

The other route, you could go over Mongolia to Vladivistok (not through China) and ship with ferry to Japan or Korea. And then further, but you would have to check it out.
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Northern Pakistan and the KKH is fairly safe, I went through China from Kyrgyzstan (5 days through China, keeps costs down as opposed to crossing all of China) . KKH was the highlight of my trip. India if you are not keen can be crossed from Lahore in Pakistan to the Nepalese border in 3 to 6 days, however it is well worth doing Leh, Ladakh if the time of year is right, and the Corbett National Park. Nepal was also a highlight of my UK to NZ trip. Like India 'Light'. The culture and colour of India but without the hassle.
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What are your safety concerns about Pakistan and India? There is a small risk of separatist violence in Kashmir but is still a major tourism destination. As mentioned above driving standards are interesting but similar to what I encountered in Istanbul, Thessaloniki, and Tehran. As a solo female traveller I experienced hassle in India but managed to shrug most of this off, the men that hassled me were not a patch on the Turkish men that hassled me, spiked my drinks and grabbed me.

Pakistan, we all know that passing from Iran into Pakistan is dodgy through Baluchistan, and up the KKH there are places where you need to ride in convoy with the local cops, but I wouldn't write off the whole country because of one region. There have been more people killed in London terrorist attacks than tourists on the KKH in a decade. Doesn't mean I avoid London.
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Thanks Lovetheworld and Fern.

I guess my safety concerns with Pakistan is my safety
Well, I mean I don't want to take high risks, but I can see that maybe the risk is not as high as I think. But I will need to know what I'm doing, and be up to date on the events there.

What India goes.... When reading blogs, and from the tv-programs I've seen, it just doesn't appeal to me. Although I realize that the biggest challenges, might give the most important memories. So, yeah, I don't know what to think.

Even though if I don't do china and take the lower route through Pakistan and India instead, its still the problem with Thailand and more of the countries in that part of the world. Shipping would be nice from Thailand or Malaysia.

I think, for the moment, I will look into two routes simultaneously. The Asian route, and the northern route through Mongolia, shipping from somewhere around Vladivostok.
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