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Colombian plated bike

I'm headed back to Colombia in August. I have a Colombian plated bike that is registered to me in Medellin. And there any border issues to encounter on a ride south?
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"...on a ride south" - from North/Central America south to Colombia, or from Colombia southbound (i.e, are you on your way south to Colombia, or asking about going south from Colombia)?

I see that (at least on their website) the "Certificado de antecedentes penales" from your country of residence is still required. Apparently (haven't done this recently) one can get a "transit" s tamp giving 10 days (I think) to cross the country without the Certificado; also apparently it's possible to get an exception and Finca Sommerwind can help with this.

Otherwise no issues of which I'm aware. You'll presumably be familiar with the rigorous application of agricultural protection rules entering Chile.
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2022-23 spent 3 months in Ecuador. 12000 km on my f700. the funny thing is that I crossed from Colombia to Ecuador > Puente SanMiguel I stamped out of Colombia and Stamped into Ecuador literally 15 feet away from the Migration Colombia Wow what a treat , no lines and pleasent officials , The lady at Migration looked at me and said you were previously in Ecuador in march 2022. I said your correct I was a Tramite, Passing thru on a private aircraft A Turbo DC3, we spent 1 night in Guayaquil.
So now im stamped into Ecuador and away I go on the bike, I didn't even think for one second that I may need a TIP I just started to explore. and eventually returned to Colombia 2023. I left my bike in Guayaquil at a parking garage near the airport in Guayaquil early 2023 because I was going back to work in the Middle East and returned in April to pick up the bike
All being said I wondered if I needed a TIP. for a Colombian plated bike owned by a foreigner with a residence visa Colombian.I have asked a few Colombians about this matter and they said just go you dont need a TIP. and I dont see any reason you should. I never was asked for anything-license -insurance Nothing
It was like going from Canada to USA in a vehicle
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2022-23 spent 3 months in Ecuador. 12000 km on my f700. the funny thing is that I crossed from Colombia to Ecuador > Puente SanMiguel I stamped out of Colombia and Stamped into Ecuador literally 15 feet away from the Migration Colombia Wow what a treat , no lines and pleasent officials , The lady at Migration looked at me and said you were previously in Ecuador in march 2022. I said your correct I was a Tramite, Passing thru on a private aircraft A Turbo DC3, we spent 1 night in Guayaquil.
So now im stamped into Ecuador and away I go on the bike, I didn't even think for one second that I may need a TIP I just started to explore. and eventually returned to Colombia 2023. I left my bike in Guayaquil at a parking garage near the airport in Guayaquil early 2023 because I was going back to work in the Middle East and returned in April to pick up the bike
All being said I wondered if I needed a TIP. for a Colombian plated bike owned by a foreigner with a residence visa Colombian.I have asked a few Colombians about this matter and they said just go you dont need a TIP. and I dont see any reason you should. I never was asked for anything-license -insurance Nothing
It was like going from Canada to USA in a vehicle
You may have been fortunate (or there is indeed no TIP requirement). Had you continued to Perú you might have run into a problem. We entered Ecuador (in our Colombian vehicle) and owing to ignorance simply continued without getting our CdP stamped (or getting a TIP). We ran into a police checkpoint (fortunately shortly after the border) and were told that we'd have to go back to Customs. We did so, got our CdP stamped, and then travelled around Ecuador, getting our CdP "stamped out" on leaving into Perú.

WANDRR - My suggestion is to stop at Customs when you enter Ecuador and get a TIP (unless you use a CdP, in which case get it stamped out of Colombia and into Ecuador).
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I am planing a trip to Peru in august and im glad to hear you can get a 10 days grace for transiting thru Ecuador im happy for this because I dont want to spend anytime in Ecuador. the gringo buck is like getting ripped off every day for a CND dollar earner
I am aware of the tip for Peru
I will do the crossing in San Miguel again No tip and back road it to Peru
my previous 3 months traveling Ecuador and not once did I go thru a police check point. I was on the coast a lot from San Lorenzo to Playas. great fishing. the mountains are pretty much like Colombia. Pretty and very Green
this tour to Peru is going to be a repeat of when I was backpacking in 1980-81 this time ill get around without public transportation wow 43 years later on a bike
I spent a year in Peru in Peru 80-81. I learned to surf and
I miss the Ceviche Pilsen Callao/ Garza Rial.
the funny thing is that I have flown from Guayaquil to Arica Chile North south- and south north many times and see the entire Peruvian coast at 10 thousand feet above sea level Spectacular Geography / Topography Now its time to do it on the ground again forty years later
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A few days ago Ecuador lifted the requirement for "antecedentes penales" - good news!

Safe travels!
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I have never had an enter into a country like Ecuador. on our transitions from Canada to Puntareanas Chile to make the crossing of the drake passage is a adventure in itself
we fly for usually 5 to 7 days to do this ferry flight and the the stop in Guayaquil is always special, We land and are designated to a parking area not far from the main terminal and wait a few minutes and the custom official come to greet us usually with a dog, they check out our aircraft and we are always passed. then the handlers greet us in a van after we have pumped 1500 gallons aboard and greet us with a welcome and a porta bar with refreshments. I chose and have a on airside at an international airport. I have never seen this in the world Oh Well Hospitality is the best here
We jump into the van and they take us to migration.> me on my second in hand go thru migration. and the official asks Stamp or no stamp I decline telling her I need the space. and she knew my concerns, I am running out of pages. and would be leaving the next day weather permitting Ecuador has there shite together.
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temporary import visa

I can con firm that if you have a Colombian plated bike and a Colombian nationality or forien resident with residence you dont need a TIP for Ecuador or Venezuela they share the same flag , it is in a reason for Commerce and being a Andean nation with in 3 countries
your transportation linked to your pass port may be another ordeal
I dont give it much thought because my transportation is linked to my Visa/ Cedula and Colombian ID
I can guarantee I will never need a TIP to travel SA with My Colombian papers in SA But I will have buy insurance. it is all that is needed to cross borders
If you think about it , it sounds ridiculous to have a temporary import permit if you want to travel, if you live in South America. for what reason would you need one challenge this one AM
id like good answers because I dont date babes that work in migration or federal Transit Authorities I wish I did
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If you think about it , it sounds ridiculous to have a temporary import permit if you want to travel, if you live in South America. for what reason would you need one challenge this one AM
Crossing borders usually requires either TIP or CdP; I realise that there are "open border" areas like Schengen; so I take your point that travel within the Andean Community or MERCOSUR ought to be similar.
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Crossing borders often means buying short-term civil liability insurance. I tried to buy MERCOSUR before leaving Peru. The broker could only sell MERCOSUR insurance for 4-wheeled vehicles. I offered to put training wheels on my motorcycle, no success. In Brazil, I was told insurance is recommended, not required. I tried to buy insurance in Porto Velho, Brazil, but the insurance office I stopped in wasn't able to craft a policy. I didn't bother for the short time I would be in Paraguay

I bought liability insurance when I entered Argentina at Clorinda (the closest city in AR after leaving Asunción, Paraguay.) Customs didn't want to allow me to enter. After some time they reviewed and recorded my Peruvian SOAT policy, which did not cover Argentina but may have shown a pattern of buying buy insurance. I promised the officials that I would buy insurance in Clarinda and they let me in. In Clorinda, I found an insurance agent and was delighted to learn that the insurance covered these MERCOSUR countries: Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina, Chile, and Bolivia. Buy insurance once, and you're covered for multiple countries. Peru is an associate member of the MERCOSUR agreement, which may explain why it was not covered. Or perhaps the policies are designed and marketed by region?

Bookmark this link. It returns the location and operational status of all border crossings in/out of Argentina. https://www.argentina.gob.ar/segurid...nternacionales
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