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Questions is regarding Chile, Colombia, Argentina.

The regulations states
"Holders of passports of the following 93 jurisdictions can visit "XXX" without a visa for up to 90 days "

If crossing in and out several times, how is this counted?

Eg. Start in Chile. Enter Argentina. Drive for a period. Than some crossing in and out between the countries.

Is it counted 90 days total in the actual country? Or 90 days from first entry?

Lest take an easy example.

30 days in Chile
60 days in Argentina
30 days in Chile

That is 60 days per country
But the 60 days i Chile are distributed over a period of 120 days.

Is this OK ?
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90 days max! Per country per year total. Do ask how long you were given AND check that your bike got the same!

(Correct procedure would be for you to call the embassy of each of those countries in your place of residence, which is ??? and make sure that what I’m telling you is correct)
Is it 90 days per calendar year or in any 12 month period? We've been bouncing between Chile and Argentina for about 3 months, mostly in Chile, you date. But we have several more months planned, mostly in Argentinia. We could bump up against 90 days in a twelve month period in Argentina. If it is by calendar year, not a problem.


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And do they really check for cumulative days? We've crossed in and between Chile and Argentina six times over there past few months, and we have received a passport stamp and TIP for 90 days each time. But, I guess it is a computerized system, and in principle, they know ...

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Hi, there is a Dutch guy who has a Youtube Channel and goes by the name Pedro Mota. He has done some videos about this when he went in and out of these countries in 2019. Perhaps watching these videos or even contacting him might be of benefit as he had first hand knowledge of this.
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Its 90 days pr entry. Those 90 days can even be extended with another 90 days, at least in Chile ss I did a couple of year ago. Costed 100 USD I think.
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Its 90 days pr entry. Those 90 days can even be extended with another 90 days, at least in Chile ss I did a couple of year ago. Costed 100 USD I think.
Official answer. Consistent with statement from Snakeboy.

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Swedish citizens are allowed to travel to Chile as tourists and stay there for 90 days. You can request an extension of your tourist permit if you wish to extend your stay in Chile for another 90 days from the expiration date of your first tourist permit.



Here you will find more information

https://www.extranjeria.gob.cl/media...quirements.pdf

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But... it addressed the scenario where you stay longer than 90 days inside Chile. But it does not address my scenario. Where I arrive in Chile. Exit Chile. Tour around and return to Chile after more than 90 days. Than I can not apply for extension in Santiago. While my first 90 days are still running.

More questions will be asked to try to clarify that scenario.

I hope I will be back with more info.
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In Argentina, eh clock is ticking whether you are there or not....
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In regards to your question, you will not have new 90th days when you enter Argentina the second or the third time etc.

To be clear, you have 90th days each year.
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The 90 days count since the first day you enter Argentina. You can leave and enter again multiple times during that period, but the 90 days are still running, no matter if you spend them in another country. So, for example, let say you enter Argentina on day 1, you will be able to leave and come back up to day number 90, but not further than that.

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It depends on if you are exempt a visa or not
An interesting question as I have entered and left Argentina multiple times over the past 2 years. I always was given a 90 day visa and assumed that the clock started anew with each entry. Below is a link to the Argentine Consulate General in UK. You can see that if you are not exempt a visa you get 90 days regardless of if you come and go -the days are cumulative. A 90 day extension is possible. If you don't require a visa (my case New Zealand passport) then each entry you get 90 days with no set rules as to how many times you can come and go except that if the authorities consider you are abusing the immigration process they can limit you entry at their discretion.
https://clond.cancilleria.gob.ar/en/node/2433
I didn't research the situation for Chile but I have entered and left Chile many times and always got 90 days with never any suggestion the days were cumulative in a year
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This thread caused me to check my passport stamps; I have entered Argentina the times in the past three months, and every stamp gave 90 days. I have a USA passport (visa exempt). This topic caused concern because I will have a total of more than 90 days in country by the trime I leave Buenos Aires, but not on one stamp. But I will check the stamp carefully on my last entrance into Argentina (and the TVIP!).

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Thanks

You provided a link to an official home page.

I only have an E-mail from the Argentina Embassy in Sweden.

Looks as they do not know the rules.
Or mixed up.

I will check with them again.

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The link Dlyttle provided included this

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If the person travels outside of Argentina at any time (under the orignal period granted on arrival or under the extension), when re-entering the country he/she will be usually given another 90 days, which can be subsequently extended. The number of times the traveller can re-enter the country in this way can not be determined beforehand and it is subject to Dirección Nacional de Migraciones being satisfied that the person is not covering an immigration purpose.
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This is consistent what I have learned before. You get another 90 days, As long as it is not obvious miss use. Just leave the country and reenter direct, just to prolong the stay.
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Chile link
https://www.extranjeria.gob.cl/visitar-chile/


I cant find any information regarding re-enter
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I now have confirmation that I will get 90 days again at each new entry.
Both from the Chile embassy. And from a real case.
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Sum up of this thread
Here is the summary.
(Verified facts)

Valid for both Chile and Argentina:

As a citizen of a country on the "visa exempt" list I will, at entry, get 90 days permit to stay in the country. (Chile/Argentina)

I will get another 90 days at next entry.

No firm limit for number of entries that are allowed. The limit is "miss use". For example to hide permanent stay. The stay shall be as a tourist.

For Chile I can extend with another 90 days for a fee, while in Chile.
But I can also take a trip outside Chile and reenter. And get extension for free.
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