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I am Canadian and reside in Canada. I want to buy an American registered BMW in Germany. I have been riding over there for years but don’t know if I am allowed to purchase an American bike and keep it in Europe or how to re-register it and plate it with Canadian plates without the bike being over here. We would appreciate any advice. Donna Robinson….
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I re-read this after posting and thought to add a a few things. First is it currently registered in your name in USA but physically in Europe or are you riding it informally unregistered, or still registered to previous owner? If it is in your name then shipping it first to the US and riding it to Canada and following the importation process while costly should be fairly straightforward. You would need to first confirm that it qualifies for RIV or if it is exempt. Vehicles over 15 years old can be imported into Canada more easily as they are not subject to an inspection which from my understanding is governed nationally by transport canada. The issue, is registering them provincially and insuring them. If it is a known standard model there are ways of doing this fairly easily, and it is even possible to enquire provincially in advance as to what the process is and what documents you can use to show that it was built as a street legal vehicle and can then be registered. If it was originally registered in the US that should actually be quite simple.
If anyone following the thread has more details on exactly what the rules and limitations for leaving a foreign registered vehicle in EU indefinitely and possibly selling it to other non-EU nationals and re-registering it that would also be very helpful to know. My understanding is that often the vehicles are not officially entered into any system and not given a TIP, and that individual countries do have rules about how long a vehicle can remain in their country without being imported, but that seems mostly to be concerned with nationals from other EU member states keeping there vehicles indefinitely and either not officially becoming residents themselves or becoming residents but not formalizing the status of their vehicle. As it pertains to US or Canadian registered vehicles it is unclear to me. Firstly I understand that this hinges more on the legal status of the person rather than the vehicle, and if someone leaves europe but their vehicle remains then they are in a grey area, and if they sell the vehicle to another person and that person re-registers it in a foreign jurisdiction in their own name it becomes fuzzier still. On one hand I suppose that is a way in which a vehicle can be effectively imported without ever complying to road safety measures or paying the relevant taxes, and in another way it seems to me that the interests and concerns of member states vs. the governing body of EU may just leave a gap.
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If anyone following the thread has more details on exactly what the rules and limitations for leaving a foreign registered vehicle in EU indefinitely and possibly selling it to other non-EU nationals and re-registering it that would also be very helpful to know. My understanding is that often the vehicles are not officially entered into any system and not given a TIP, and that individual countries do have rules about how long a vehicle can remain in their country without being imported, but that seems mostly to be concerned with nationals from other EU member states keeping there vehicles indefinitely and either not officially becoming residents themselves or becoming residents but not formalizing the status of their vehicle. As it pertains to US or Canadian registered vehicles it is unclear to me. Firstly I understand that this hinges more on the legal status of the person rather than the vehicle, and if someone leaves europe but their vehicle remains then they are in a grey area, and if they sell the vehicle to another person and that person re-registers it in a foreign jurisdiction in their own name it becomes fuzzier still. On one hand I suppose that is a way in which a vehicle can be effectively imported without ever complying to road safety measures or paying the relevant taxes, and in another way it seems to me that the interests and concerns of member states vs. the governing body of EU may just leave a gap.
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Hi RTW,
Each EU-country has their own rules about how long a vehicle can stay inside that country before either having to leave the country or getting imported. I think in most countries it´s 6 months.
With importing a vehicle it get´s registrated and plated and goes into the vehicle database. Importing vehicles is very expensive in each country i know of. I think there is one thing many travelers do not think about enough:
We are travelers; we travel and as such we have a privilege of being allowed to take our vehicle and other possessions into each foreign country without having to import it (and pay taxes). BUT....... as soon as we leave the country we are required to take the same vehicle and possession out of the country. As soon as we leave, and don´t take all the possessions we brought into the country with us, we have no right of the travelers privileges, in other words we are no longer travelers in that country. Then the basic laws and rules about import and export of goods take effect. These are customs regulations which we have to obey. That means officially importing it and paying taxes unless we put those possessions into a customs compound.
So although many people get away with leaving vehicles in another country I think it is not a grey area, it is plain offence of customs laws.
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