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Shackleton was an EXPLORER. He went where no one had been (or at least been and survived and written it down) before.
This guy is on HOLIDAY and just wants to shout about how it wasn't two weeks in Benidorm.
The difference is that the former was done for gainful purposes, be it what we would now consider less aceptable (such as finding out if the locals had gold they'd care to part with) or generally for the betterment of the whole planet (finding out what the magnetic poles did to radio waves etc.) and was truely life threatening. The fact that exploration now involves space rockets and million dollar submarines is just something we need to learn to live with and enjoy our holidays to the nice beach.
I meant, who these days writes about how horrible it'll be to journey to the fever islands? That's a trip to the Caribean for those of us not stuck in the 19th Century. Normal people in 1914 didn't go to the South Pole, they either got an afternoon off to wash themselves, a week at the coast or if pretty rich a train ride to France. I wonder if Journalists on the Riviera complained that the invention of the post card made their extreme-adventure-drinking of foreign water less of an extreme adventure?
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Originally Posted by maja
I don't really agree with your definition of the term "Adventure" and also and most importantly, electronic things have an "off" switch or you could leave them at home. Travel is where and what you, or the local customs and immigration officials, make it. Personally, I like my netbook and BBC radio4, in addition, the term "Adventure hints of a lack of control, something that I can do without. However, whatever you do or don't, if you are not enjoying it, stop, it's not an adventure it's a pain in the arse. Ride safe.
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I didn't write the article, nor agree with some of the contents, just throwing up in the air for a debate :-)
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Originally Posted by Threewheelbonnie
Shackleton was an EXPLORER. He went where no one had been (or at least been and survived and written it down) before.
This guy is on HOLIDAY and just wants to shout about how it wasn't two weeks in Benidorm.
The difference is that the former was done for gainful purposes, be it what we would now consider less aceptable (such as finding out if the locals had gold they'd care to part with) or generally for the betterment of the whole planet (finding out what the magnetic poles did to radio waves etc.) and was truely life threatening. The fact that exploration now involves space rockets and million dollar submarines is just something we need to learn to live with and enjoy our holidays to the nice beach.
I meant, who these days writes about how horrible it'll be to journey to the fever islands? That's a trip to the Caribean for those of us not stuck in the 19th Century. Normal people in 1914 didn't go to the South Pole, they either got an afternoon off to wash themselves, a week at the coast or if pretty rich a train ride to France. I wonder if Journalists on the Riviera complained that the invention of the post card made their extreme-adventure-drinking of foreign water less of an extreme adventure?
If the WIFI disturbs your personal enjoyment of your holiday, turn it off.
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drop kick that mobile into the sea! I threaten people with that often!
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I usually carry some kind of smartphone or pocket computer with me when I travel. I find it extremely helpful.
If other people don't like 'em, that's their problem.
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Finding a happy median is the answer. Trying to step back in time is a lost cause when your average Masai with no shoes is standing at the side of the road hoping to sell you an ostrich egg with his mobile phone clamped to his ear.
I think to a great extent technology has made it more difficult for the more adventurous to have an adventure. As a friend of mine who was describing his trip to the Sinai and Sharm El Shaik in 1986 says even his auntie Ethel's been there now.
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Hi,
>> For me, real adventure travel does not just come from the journey itself but from feeling cut off
from one's normal way of life - a situation that forces you to accept what you find and become absorbed by it.
Well im really enjoy having Internet...thats something i allways look forward if im cut off somewhere in the wild.
Its a very powerfull tool. Without being able to speak the local language, i get a lot of information about the countrys
from other peoples online travel reports or from the HUBB and sometimes i even get invited to stay with
people all over the world using couchsurfing.
Internet also gives you the chance to download good maps for your GPS and to backup the fotos you need if you plan
to publish your story in a magazine or want to make a slideshow to earn a bit of money for the next trip.
In case your camera gets stolen or when i was arested in sudan and forced to delete the pictures on my camera,
they where not lost.
It also makes me feel less lonely. By far not all places have internet fast enouth to use skype, but even
waiting 30 minutes untill the login of gmail was successfull and being able to reed one single email from my girlfriend
before the electricity fails again gives me the strength to continue my trip.
Of course if would have been much nicer to travel together with here but sometimes this is just not possible.
Greetings from Columbia, Tobi
Motorrad Reise durch Ecuador und Columbien - Teil 4
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