Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Chat Forum > The HUBB PUB
The HUBB PUB Chat forum - no useful content required!

BUT the basic rules of polite and civil conduct which everyone agreed to when signing up for the HUBB, will still apply, though moderation will be a LITTLE looser than elsewhere on the HUBB.
Photo by Hendi Kaf, in Cambodia

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Hendi Kaf,
in Cambodia



Like Tree2Likes
  • 1 Post By Tim Cullis
  • 1 Post By TheWarden

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 1 May 2023
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 36
Stuck in Merzouga Morocco, need some help

Hey All

So I had a minor fall today on my way to Ramlia and managed to damage the gearbox of my crf 300l. I was able to organize a pick up back to merzouga and the bike is now at a workshop. The bike is stuck in first, they tried to unstuck it but no joy. They haven’t even checked the gearbox but said something inside is broken and it’ll take at least 4 days to get the part. Anyone (maybe in the area?)who can support? I have my ferry back to Spain from Tangier Med on Saturday morning, so any tips on how to navigate this would be very much appreciated. In the meantime I’m trying to call my insurance to see if they can cover the transport back to spain (I live in Malaga)

Thank you,
Andrea
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 1 May 2023
Gold Member
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1
Look at this

Hello.
Check out Itchy Boots Season 7 Episode 18, the exact same thing happened to her.
It seems that the gearbox can lock up when you have an unfortunate fall.
Check out her video if you can, being able to push the bike seems to have helped.
Good luck
Gunnar
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 1 May 2023
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 36
Thank you. Yes I’m familiar with the video, we tried that a few times but no joy unfortunately.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 1 May 2023
Tim Cullis's Avatar
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: London and Granada Altiplano
Posts: 3,124
Several people commented on Itchy's video to put the bike on its side and rock the wheels. Here's one post with more detail...

"For the bike being stuck in gear, instead of trying to rock the bike in deep sand (impossible, as you know), just tip the bike onto the right-hand side so you can turn the rear wheel with one hand while working the gear lever with the other. The transmission isn't actually jammed in gear, but actually blocked at a false neutral and unable to shift into 2nd due to the drive dogs not being lined up. Putting light pressure on the gear lever while turning the rear wheel will allow you to drift the transmission through the false neutral until the dogs for 2nd line up, at which point you can complete the shift."

"They haven’t even checked the gearbox but said something inside is broken and it’ll take at least 4 days to get the part."
If they've not opened the gearbox how would they know what part to order?

"I have my ferry back to Spain from Tangier Med on Saturday morning"
I normally get an open return. Your ticket will hopefully be accepted even if you are a day or so late.

"Any tips on how to navigate this would be very much appreciated"
Do you have faith in the Merzouga guys?

Organising a man with a van to take you and the bike to Tanger Med is the easiest/safest solution, but its 800km of driving and the cost would be highly dependent upon your negotiating skills, at least €400, maybe a lot more.

Some years ago after I dropped my XR400R near Midelt it was was stuck in third gear. I rode the 125km back to my hotel in Azrou by accelerating to high revs in third, then pulling the clutch to coast, then accelerate again, then coast again... And I made good progress. So a rather mad option is to ride your bike back to Tanger Med in first gear. At an average of 20 kph that's 40 hours, so possibly doable if you can't afford the van.

Even riding to Erfoud and then looking for a van might be a good idea as you won't be beholden to the Merzouga mafia (in the past some guys have charged €500 to pull a 4x4 out of the dunes).

As a guideline on costs, I had an experienced KTM mechanic and his assistant working on my KTM 690 in Ouarzazate for two days. After a couple of dead ends it turned out it was a shattered rocker bearing. When I came to pay I reckoned 600dh was fair (in Morocco) and gave him that. He said it was too much and returned 200dh. So I got out a 100dh and gave him that as well. Everyone happy at 500dh.

If you could get to Ouarzazate, this guy is at KTM Ledvoyages, stick 'Ledvoyages' into Google Maps.
__________________
"For sheer delight there is nothing like altitude; it gives one the thrill of adventure
and enlarges the world in which you live,"
Irving Mather (1892-1966)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 1 May 2023
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bellingham, WA, USA
Posts: 3,982
Unless there is more to the story, I don't think you've found a trustworthy mechanic--if one even exists in Merzouga, I can only say that I didn't find them. Erfoud is only 30 miles/50km; I'd be tempted to hire a taxi to tow me there. It'll take years off your life, but if you can use a tow line with some stretch and rig am easy disconnect it's certainly do-able.

Hope that's helpful, but if not please just ignore.

Mark
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 1 May 2023
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 36
Hi Tim,

many thanks for getting back to me.
So it seems this is a known weak spot for the crf 300/250 models, see https://youtu.be/YUtFM5_iwPY or https://youtu.be/vBWwUYjRCQI

I finally managed to talk to my insurance and they arranged transport to Erfoud, where they might try to fix it but more likely they will send it to Tangier med so i can put her on the ferry on Saturday morning. More info on this tomorrow..

A rather bitter end to my trip but at least we made it down here and had a few days to enjoy it.

Interesting what you say about the mechanics here, it confirms my instincts in a way.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 1 May 2023
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 36
Hi Mark

Messages crossed mid air! Lesson learned about trying to get the bikes to Erfoud, Tim yourself and someone else here said the same thing. I amKeeping my fingers crossed that I can be back on the road tomorrow, failing that I’ll taxi my way back to tangier while the bike is transported there.


Many thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 2 May 2023
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 2,134
Quote:
Originally Posted by dtour View Post
Interesting what you say about the mechanics here, it confirms my instincts in a way.
I had a similar experience (extraordinarily honest mechanics) a few years ago when the rear wheel bearings in my ST 1100 burned up.

Two mechanics worked on the bike almost all day, including taking me around town to (successfully) find two identical bearings, and they refused to take more than USD $15 for the full day's work.

I think that most Moroccans are inherently very honest people. It's one of the things I like most about the country.

Michael
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 2 May 2023
Tim Cullis's Avatar
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: London and Granada Altiplano
Posts: 3,124
There are trustworthy mechanics. I also had a rear wheel bearing fail. This was in Fez in 2008 on an almost new BMW F650GS twin. The cost was just 100dh which was then about £8.

But there are some that are non-trustworthy. In 1974 I was touring on a 'pre-marriage honeymoon' with my wife-to-be in our Triumph Vitesse convertible when the clutch stopped working properly. We stopped in Ouarzazate which then was not much more than a military post and Club Med resort, and the mechanics found two of the bolts securing the gearbox to the engine (with the clutch in the middle) had snapped and every time I pressed the clutch the gearbox moved backwards. Extremely simple job to fix, however the bill was the equivalent of £120 which almost 50 years ago was a vast fortune for the UK, let alone Morocco.

I knew there was no way I could negotiate the bill down to something realistic, or even expensively realistic. So I truthfully said I didn't have enough money on me and non-truthfully said I would go to the bank in the morning. The reality is that we skidaddled out of town. I still feel uneasy for cheating them, but console myself knowing they were nothing but rip-off merchants.

The €500 bill I spoke about above to pull a 4x4 out of the dunes was about ten years ago now, so goodness knows how much some of the chancers will try to charge. But you are over a barrel.

As for transporting the bike to Tanger Med, Peter Buitelaar of Bikershome was (maybe still is) an agent for ADAC recovery and from memory charged €0.50 per km for rescues, plus the same again to get back to base. Again, this was ten years ago, so factor in inflation.
__________________
"For sheer delight there is nothing like altitude; it gives one the thrill of adventure
and enlarges the world in which you live,"
Irving Mather (1892-1966)

Last edited by Tim Cullis; 2 May 2023 at 11:21.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 2 May 2023
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 36
Hey all, I’m still at my hostel waiting for the insurance to call me back. I call them every hour or so but apparently it’s all in the hands of their agent here who’s now trying to arrange transport to Meknes. Really not ideal as I don’t have a direct contact. If I don’t hear back in the next few hours I might try to got to Erfoud to check the bike and see if there is anything I can do from there.
Cheers,
Andrea
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 2 May 2023
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 1,484
Speak to Garage Royale in Erfoud they are the best in the area.

The Morocco Desert Challenge finished in Merzouga on Sunday. There should be lots of trucks heading to the ferry if the haven’t already left.

We were in the area on Saturday but too far away now to help. A cheap recovery option is to rent a van that allows you to return it to an office in Tanger and transport the bike yourself.

Another good contact is Ali Oubassidi at Ksar Bicha.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 3 May 2023
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 36
Thank you, actually that’s where the bike currently is. But because I’m handling the situation through the insurance they are not going to fix it as they are trying to have it sent to a Honda dealer in Meknes. I’m gonna visit them shortly as I’m in Erfoud too now.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 3 May 2023
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 1,484
Ok they are a good bunch and very well recommended, we got a gwagen aluminium gearbox case welded overnight there last year, they did a very good job.

It’s a shame it was suggested there are no decent mechanics in the area
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 3 May 2023
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 36
I think the criticism was mostly about mechanics around Merzouga and actually quite a few people recommended Erfoud / Garage Royal. I went there earlier and they seemed ok, though they were annoyed that I wasn’t committing to have the work done as I was still in conversations with the insurance. They now confirmed that they are arranging for the bike to be transported back to Spain which at this point is welcome news. It’s been a nerve wracking couple of days.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 3 May 2023
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 1,484
That’s good news

There are some ok mechanics in Merzouga as well. But you need to know which ones. Garage Royale is the best in the region so most of us will get to Erfoud some how and use them
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Erg Chebbi, near Merzouga Toyark Sleep and Eat, Morocco 1 1 Feb 2023 16:08
Morocco road R702 from Erfoud to Merzouga Tuaregsr Morocco 2 25 Nov 2019 06:44
Norway to Morocco, Spain, Portugal and Eastern Europe Hkon89 Route Planning 6 17 Sep 2019 20:34
Suggestions please for a week in Morocco... MarchHare Morocco 13 13 Aug 2017 21:43
Morocco Via Ferry to Tangier Med schmidtle Morocco 3 19 Apr 2016 20:16

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

25 years of HU Events
Be sure to join us for this huge milestone!

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

Virginia: April 24-27
Queensland is back! May 2-5
Ecuador June 13-15
Germany Summer: May 29-June 1
CanWest: July 10-13
Switzerland: Date TBC
Ecuador: Date TBC
Romania: Date TBC
Austria: Sept. 11-14
California: September 18-21
France: September 19-21
Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 17:52.