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Thanks for the reply Rapax.

The question is whose view of women's rights? It won't be (I imagine) yours or mine, but is that relevant? Afghanistan is dominated by Pashtuns (not pashtums) who have a very traditional tribal coda that gels well with fundamentalist Islam. Strict Sharia law (or even mild Sharia law, which is the law where I live) is not equitable to women. Afghanistan is never going to be a great place to live if you are a woman who wants equal rights with a man. But this Western mentality of cultural superiority is partly what is behind these kind of occupations - let the Americans come and save the people from their repression - they want Macdonalds and Nascar racing right?? Because who wouldn't?? Do you think Afghans are getting ready to send their army over to the West to solve our societal ills? The Western media pick a few of the small, urban middle class elite to justify the occupation while ordinary Afghans feel violated and humiliated at having foreign invaders in their country, on their streets, pointing guns at them - and they need only look to Iraq to see what these invaders are capable of doing. My blood ran cold in the streets of Jalalabad when the US Army came through in armoured vehicles.

I think it remains to be seen if the withdrawal of the occupying powers turns into a tragedy. Unfortunately I think there is a significant chance that it will, but we have not seen that yet. The issue in my opinion is not the Taliban we are seeing in news conferences, but the jihadists and extremists who are mixed among them.

FYI a person from Afghanistan in English (which I appreciate may not be your first language) is an Afghan. The Afghani is their currency.

Taliban attacks again? Who did the Taliban attack outside Afghanistan? The Pakistan - Afghanistan border is highly porous and I don't think anyone really knows who is Afghan and who is Pakistani Taliban, but I don't think the Afghan Taliban have been seriously implicated in attacks in Pakistan. In fact it's more the opposite; Pakistan has a murky but undeniable hand in arming the Afghan Taliban. If you think that the Taliban had much to do with the World Trade Centre attacks in 2001, that's way off. The Taliban harboured Al Qaeda (though I doubt that they were aware of plans to execute the hijacking and attack) and refused to hand over bin Laden to the Americans (who months earlier had paid the Taliban millions as a sweetener for a pipeline deal across Afghanistan...) and so in they went.

Great that Pakistan is on your list. I totally fell in love with the country and even lived there for a short time. Still my very favourite place to travel with so much to see, and much easier logistically to travel in (in the past) than Afghanistan. Sadly, I think Pakistan can have a very negative influence on how events unfold in the near future in Afghanistan.

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EO,
your are very well informed about the situation and I fully respect and share your view on Afghanistan.

But let´s be honest with a clear future view:
Due to their strong reference to the pashtums code of priviledge and right system and as well due to the sharia law it will never happen that Taliban will respect women`s rights!

Unthinkable in the way of our western thinking but also never ever in the way like other "liberal islamic countries" do.

If Afghanistan will convert in future into a base from where Talibans will spread attacks (again) to non and to islamic(!) countries will only be depend on how strong and cash-rich western politics will be. And as we saw in the past weeks the game of pressing advantages was opened by the talibans in conferences with western countries.

In my eyes it`s an absolute inhuman shame what is actually happening there and how the world reacts to this. But nobody can stem fast the tide which started decades and centurys before. I allways thought that Churchill was right when he stated that a bad peace is better than a good war. But in the moment I am still asking myself where will be difference for the Afganis when a Taliban goverment will show that a bad peace and a good war will be the same.

I was never really interested to visit Afghanistan but especially Pakistan is still on my list. Talibans recruited in the past a lot of fighters from pakistani pashtums who are a minority in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. It will get existing to see what kind influence in view of safety, economics and attacks in Pakistan will be driven in the future from pakistani pashtums.
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